AJT123

Motor Trend article just came out. I'm a tad disappointed in general though lol I'd certainly drive one of these. But I always said getting rid of the V8 is/was absolutely unforgivable.

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/lexus...t-test-review/

crf69

people including myself that buy this car aren't worried about 0-60 times. i can hardly wait for this model !!!!!!!

AJT123

Congrats on your future purchase, I'm certainly envious. But I think you missed my point. No V6 will be as refined as a V8, and CERTAINLY not as a refined as a Lexus V8. No V6, even Toyota, will hum along like a sewing machine like any Lexus V8 does.

We have an IS350 with a 3.5L (granted this IS NOT the same engine as the new one) and it's a "smooth" motor but it's just not even close to the way the 4.3V8 purrs in my car. Worlds, UNIVERSES difference.

That said, I'm sure you and other buyers aren't going to be like, "dang, wish this was a V8."

Just as a long time LS owner I do not like that they dropped it. LS has always had a V8, and this new V6 barely even outperforms the old one.

Again, congrats!

SW17LS

Its not about performance, its about fuel economy vs performance. The TTV6 will feel faster and more powerful than the V8 whether it actually is or not, if you go drive a V6TT G90 or CT6 you'll feel that.

I too would prefer a V8.

jadu

iTrader: (42)

i can forgive, but the nostalgic part of me will also miss the NA V8. on the bright side, with a stock turbo system, HP and TQ can be unleashed with just a BPU or BPU+ i.e. downpipe, larger intercooler, intake system etc..

AJT123

Right but will it feel as *refined*? I can speculate bc of physics the way a V6 "balances" vs V8 (which we've all talked to death here lol), but you're the one who has driven all these V6TT cars. Do they hum along as nicely as your LS? Not talking about seat of pants feel etc. Just that legendary Lexus, refined, sewing machine hum.

Like you I barely ever crest 3000RPM, like EVER. Car spends it's majority 1800-2300, where that V8 purr it gives is basically blissful and euphoric. Agreed about who cares about 0-60 times, although I am a tad disappointed 5.3 is all they got from 412hp.

SW17LS

I did not find the TTV6 in the G90 or the CT6 to feel rougher or less balanced than my V8, no.

COOLIS

I just wonder if Lexus will be able to keep their high long-term reliability ratings with all these turbo engines? I don't see a nearly 20 year old LS500 being as reliable as the 1998 LS400. That being said, had Lexus offered a V8 in the LS500, it more than likely would have still been a turbo V8 like Mercedes and BMW vs. a NA V8 of yesteryear.

AJT123

Probably not absolute ridiculous longevity like 350k+ like the old 4 and 4.3 UZs, but generally I feel these motors will be just fine reliability wise.

The way I see it if it's 5.3 seconds to 60 from 412HP it's clearly an under-stressed engine.

bjjones

Agreed! Lexus completely dropped the ball by not having a V8 for the LS 500, especially when they have such a wonderful V8 engine in the LC 500 with 471 hp that could have been utilized, at least as a starting point. And if Lexus wanted to offer a TT V6, it should have been optional along with the V8. Furthermore, the 0-60 time MotorTrend recorded is to be somewhat expected considering the LS 500 has gained much more weight than the previous LS 460 & the hp gain (30) for the RWD versions are minimal.

riknchar

I have a 2017 Genesis G90, and I can confirm that the TT V6 configuration can be amazingly refined, quiet, and can "purr" along like a sewing machine.

MotorTrend just published an interesting comparison between the LS500, the Genesis G90, the BMW 740e, and the Lincoln Continental. Here's the link: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/genes...ontinental-30/

I came to the G90 from a 2008 Lexus LS600hL, which to me was (and still is) the epitome of "old Lexus" refinement. I think the MotorTrend article hit the nail on the head when they noted how much sportier the LS has become over the years, moving away from the "tomb-like" silent cabin and effortless gliding ride to attract a younger luxury car buyer. It looks like Lexus has produced an extremely successful next gen sporty luxury car in the LS, and the article gives the Lexus props for these qualities. I'm interested in test driving the new LS500 when it shows up locally.

The problem for me, and I believe lots of "old school" Lexus folk, is that we never really asked for all of the sportiness and edgy styling. We have continued to age, and appreciate now more than ever that old understated elegance we used to get from the LS (from the LS400, 430, and 460 up until the 2013 refresh).

Genesis has cleverly stepped right into the vacancy created by Lexus in the "old school" luxury at a value price and with extreme reliability lane. Will Genesis ever be truly successful as a brand? Probably not, since the trend everywhere is towards sporty luxury, and an even bigger trend away from big 4-door sedans in favor of luxury SUVs. But for guys like me, who truly loved the Lexus LS of old, the new G90 represents a new-age throwback luxury car with all of the newest safety gadgets.

AJT123

Agree with everything you've said. I just read the article myself, looked at all the pictures. First thing I thought when analyzing the G90 interior was, "This looks like a modern day....LS430." That is DEFINITELY NOT a bad thing.

Also they commented that the V6 in the LS "struggles" to move the car when "moderate or more" throttle is applied. Smh.

Glad you are enjoying your Genesis!!

joedaddy1

iTrader: (1)

did the car really gain 600lbs? damn.. where are the lighter weight materials.. would've been killler car for size if they kept the weight in check.

texaslocal

jzqj55

after seeing the early reviews of the ls500, I would be ready to go for the g90 if it was slightly quieter and smoother riding (no air suspension avail)
S550 is the ultimate, but reliability is a worry