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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by flashy5
People have budgets for a reason thats what they can afford , so its not as simple as add 5000
Your budget doesn't dictate what the item you want to buy is worth. You're definitely really low for a 2013+, I think you'd be better off with an older one lower mileage and in better shape.
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 12:07 PM
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People have gotten 2013 for under 20k I under it wont be easy but its worth a shot worse case scenario i can one as close to 20k as possible
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 12:09 PM
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what do you guys think of this one https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=260200377
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 12:14 PM
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That one looks pretty nice, but again its $5,500 over your budget. In order to get it OTD for $20k you have to get them to accept an offer thats almost 30% less than their list price. Not gonna happen.
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by R Z
Even if you got them to $20K, with taxes and any fees, you'll be well over your $20K. That car looks nice. Has the ML and shows it's never been wrecked. All you can do is negotiate.
The car doesn't have ML upgraded stereo. The premium system is the base/non ML system. Plus the cost of a mechanic to inspect it, no idea what the under carriage, shocks, tires and brakes look like. Add those potential costs in as well. If the buyers out the door price is set at $30k. In reality, $27000, PLUS estimated 7% tax $1890, registration $400, title $100 = $29,390. Plus independent mechanic's pre-inspection $100. (not optional in my opinion). That's if it doesn't need tires, brakes or any other maintenance or repairs. Hope this helps the buyer to find a car that he likes and is under budget. I can respect a firm budget.
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by swfla
The car doesn't have ML upgraded stereo. The premium system is the base/non ML system. Plus the cost of a mechanic to inspect it, no idea what the under carriage, shocks, tires and brakes look like. Add those potential costs in as well. If the buyers out the door price is set at $30k. In reality, $27000, PLUS estimated 7% tax $1890, registration $400, title $100 = $29,390. Plus independent mechanic's pre-inspection $100. (not optional in my opinion). That's if it doesn't need tires, brakes or any other maintenance or repairs. Hope this helps the buyer to find a car that he likes and is under budget. I can respect a firm budget.
trust me I know i was going to get a 2013 gs 350 for 17 and after all the extra charges they had at 23000 out the door and I walked
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mcomer
The problem with Private sales is that you lose your privacy. Buyer has trouble with any car and returns
to the point of sale for a remedy. Don't want a knock on the door after selling a car privately do you?
Even meeting at the local Cop Shop for the test drive, mechanic check up and title/funds transfer ends
up with you handing over the title...with your name and address on it. (OK if you moved, right?)

In Illinois at least, trading in a car lowers the tax paid on the new car. Selling it outright demands that
you ask and get the trade-in value X the tax % or you are coming out behind.

All this to say that the seller wants what KBB/Edmunds said "Excellent Retail" value was. You might try
a tease...what brand of coffee do you brew for me while you are washing her up like the Lexus dealer does?
You work at a Lexus dealer, so of course you would push a trade. Also, IL tax credit is now capped at $10k, but I'm sure you know this..
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Originally Posted by swfla
The car doesn't have ML upgraded stereo. The premium system is the base/non ML system. Plus the cost of a mechanic to inspect it, no idea what the under carriage, shocks, tires and brakes look like. Add those potential costs in as well. If the buyers out the door price is set at $30k. In reality, $27000, PLUS estimated 7% tax $1890, registration $400, title $100 = $29,390. Plus independent mechanic's pre-inspection $100. (not optional in my opinion). That's if it doesn't need tires, brakes or any other maintenance or repairs. Hope this helps the buyer to find a car that he likes and is under budget. I can respect a firm budget.
Not sure what you are looking at, but the one he linked has the ML.
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by flashy5
you can ask whatever you want for a car doesnt mean you going to get it. The advantage of getting from a private seller is you get it for cheaper than a dealer and the advantage of getting one from a dealer is inspection , warranty , if something goes wrong within the first couple of days etc


You currently have a 2008 LS460L right? Are you trading it in or will you be selling it Can we see pics?

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Originally Posted by flashy5
trust me I know i was going to get a 2013 gs 350 for 17 and after all the extra charges they had at 23000 out the door and I walked
I apologize, for some reason I was calculating on $30k. Your budget is $20k. So, $18k plus 7% tax $1260, registration and title, $400 = 19660. You mentioned you had hired inspections, was my estimate of $100 correct for your town? I do hope you find what you want at the price you can afford. Patience may be your best ally.
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by R Z
Not sure what you are looking at, but the one he linked has the ML.
There are a few links, I apologize if I got it wrong. I was talking about the silver one, cars.com/craigs list, $21,900, 106,300 miles. No ML.
Edit: apparently, different links are coming thru as the same car for me.very odd

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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 02:54 PM
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There aren't many LS460/LS460L for sale privately. I gave up on looking privately and actually got a much better deal at a dealer.

Here is one in your price range and has been in the market for a while if you are ok with AWD.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6559/overview/

Based on my recent experience, there are good deals at non-Lexus new car dealers who get Lexus as trade-ins and plan to try selling it instead fo sending them to auction. Time passes and before they send it to an action, they might cut you a good deal. Look for ones that are 60+ day with them.
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JLAWS
You got currently have a 2008 LS460L right? Are you trading it in or will you be selling it Can we see pics?
I totaled that car
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BMW7_LS430
There aren't many LS460/LS460L for sale privately. I gave up on looking privately and actually got a much better deal at a dealer.

Here is one in your price range and has been in the market for a while if you are ok with AWD.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6559/overview/

Based on my recent experience, there are good deals at non-Lexus new car dealers who get Lexus as trade-ins and plan to try selling it instead fo sending them to auction. Time passes and before they send it to an action, they might cut you a good deal. Look for ones that are 60+ day with them.
that one is sold
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 04:10 PM
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guy told me 22946 out the door for this what do you guys think https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3693/overview/
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