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Old 11-26-18, 02:05 PM
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Here in West Palm Beach Costco, Mobil 1 six pack (0w-20), $15 off at $23 and change. I've never seen it this cheap...usually just $10 off. Stock up!


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I understand that Mobil 1 is not the same as TGMO.
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I understand that Mobil 1 is not the same as TGMO.
I don't know what co. makes their oil, but I doubt it's any better than Mobil synthetic.
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There was posts saying Lexus engineering wanted a different additive package for their engines versus what Mobil sells
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Originally Posted by Caflashbob
There was posts saying Lexus engineering wanted a different additive package for their engines versus what Mobil sells
Keep in mind that oil companies are constantly changing their formulas, additive packages and agreements with other companies/manufacturers.

For instance, just this summer I noticed Walmart's synthetic oil formula had changed (for what looked like the better). And the newer Dexos approved cirtifications - which most oils subscribe to - now require a minimum NOACK rating of 13. With most 0w20 oils getting down bellow ten, which I guess is an improvement.

But Toyota genuine synthetic has always been considered an excellent oil, and I'm sure it still is.
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the toyota oil is better, with the addittives
regular mobil 1 is good for changes at 5-7k miles

the mobil 1 oil at walmart that i have mentioned to nauseam is mobil 1 extended performance is a much better mobil 1 for couple dollars more for 5 qt jug

recently pennzoil platinum have taken over mobil 1 because it is derived by natural gas not crude and is much cleaner.

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Keep in mind that oil companies are constantly changing their formulas, additive packages and agreements with other companies/manufacturers.
which is one of the reasons I always liked using TGMO....you knew you were getting the right formulation/additives. In addition, I was able to get it for cheaper than just about anything else when buying it in bulk from my local Toyota dealer.

Now that I have a Ford, I'm hoping I can get the Motorcraft oil cheap somewhere, as our Walmarts in Canada don't carry it.
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All due respect but not sure why some are so high on TGMO. All I know is that Mobil 1 syn. is factory fill for many cars. Just saying...
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All due respect but not sure why some are so high on TGMO. All I know is that Mobil 1 syn. is factory fill for many cars. Just saying...
i would think that the dual injection system and the larger than normal oil capacity and the extended change intervals and the low rpm nature of the engine might require a specific oil?

some reports here and other forums of some engines starting to use oil at 175k range.

The 346k full dealer serviced ls460 posted here is what I would like.

A certain amount of oil engineering seems to be a good idea to match the engine and the rings..

my engine builds for off road bikes has allowed me long term hard use oil comparisons.

Mobil 1 with its friction modifiers had nearly zero cylinder/piston wear.

Offset by much higher ring wear and very poor transmission gear mating teeth face wear.

gave away $130 of red top Mobil 1 after that.

Earlier Mobil 1 did not exhibit this.

my 63k-70k TGMO personal car test using 0-20 showed lightly discolored oil at the change and one quart consumption.

will change again at 77k miles and use TGMO 5-20 to see if any visible consumption difference
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so high on it because it has additives like moly in small quantiities
mobil 1 over the last five to seven years has deteriorated.
the extended performance is the higher quality mobil 1
they changed the formula for the stock crude they use around 2013 i believe
or 2012

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and for oil changes at 5k it almost doesn't matter
for extended times over 7500 it does
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rumor has it exxon mobil makes toyota motor oil
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a quote from a thread on bob the oil guy forum


Yes, TGMO 0w20 is manufactured by Exxon Mobil, but its a much different oil than M1 0w20. Both are great oils, but in everyday driving I think TGMO has the edge. Thats what I would use
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Originally Posted by mikesrx350
mobil 1 over the last five to seven years has deteriorated.

Out of curiosity, where did you get this info from?
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been a car enthusiast for 30 years
i read bob the oil guy forums not recently but love learning

its knowledge readily available,
dont over think
if you do changes 3-5k reg mobil 1 fine and not a worry

if you like extending the changes, get a synthetic filter and use the extended performance available at walmart


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