Test drove LS 500 - a quick comparison with 2014 LS
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You have to wait and see how buyers who actually can buy these cars will behave, and seeing that the majority of every other flagship model, S class, 7, A8, Jag XJ, G90 buyers choose the V6/I6 over the costlier V8 there is no reason to assume that buyers will reject the LS because it has a V6 other than your own bias.
Like I said, I was pissed about the V6 until I realized that when looking at those other cars, I wouldn’t have upgraded to the V8 either. If I wouldn’t get the V8, why do I care if there is a V8?
I haven’t driven the new LS yet, but again sayings it’s like a car that is 12 inches shorter, $30,000 cheaper and 800 lbs lighter just because it has a V6 doesn’t make any sense , and again shows your own bias.
You wont buy the car without a V8, we get it. Then you aren’t a new flagship buyer anyways so what does it matter?
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You didn’t answer my question whether you are a new flagship segment buyer, so I’m going to assume the answer is no.
You have to wait and see how buyers who actually can buy these cars will behave, and seeing that the majority of every other flagship model, S class, 7, A8, Jag XJ, G90 buyers choose the V6/I6 over the costlier V8 there is no reason to assume that buyers will reject the LS because it has a V6 other than your own bias.
Like I said, I was pissed about the V6 until I realized that when looking at those other cars, I wouldn’t have upgraded to the V8 either. If I wouldn’t get the V8, why do I care if there is a V8?
I haven’t driven the new LS yet, but again sayings it’s like a car that is 12 inches shorter, $30,000 cheaper and 800 lbs lighter just because it has a V6 doesn’t make any sense , and again shows your own bias.
You wont buy the car without a V8, we get it. Then you aren’t a new flagship buyer anyways so what does it matter?
I swear they could offer it in a 4 cylinder and you’d get lexus apologists here talking about not needing to take it to the racetrack.
BTW, Lexus never went after BMW. They always try to compete with MB. In that regard I do see LS500 interior matches or even exceeds European competitors. In my mind Lexus made the right decision and built accordingly to cater certain sector of luxury car buyers.
BTW, I wonder where did that 'engine' and 'transmission' of my Tesla go????? I don't find that under the hood. I should return that to Elon Musk
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For a moment thought of not responding this but decided to do so. Did you ever compare the prices of MB S560, BMW 760 etc.?. Do you still think LS 500 comes closer to these model from price point?. Or are you hear to troll - sorry?.
BTW, Lexus never went after BMW. They always try to compete with MB. In that regard I do see LS500 interior matches or even exceeds European competitors. In my mind Lexus made the right decision and built accordingly to cater certain sector of luxury car buyers.
BTW, I wonder where did that 'engine' and 'transmission' of my Tesla go????? I don't find that under the hood. I should return that to Elon Musk
BTW, Lexus never went after BMW. They always try to compete with MB. In that regard I do see LS500 interior matches or even exceeds European competitors. In my mind Lexus made the right decision and built accordingly to cater certain sector of luxury car buyers.
BTW, I wonder where did that 'engine' and 'transmission' of my Tesla go????? I don't find that under the hood. I should return that to Elon Musk
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Passive aggressively insinuating if you can’t afford it, you have no business speaking is comical. We are here discussing the latest rendition of our hobby and there is an army of unimpressed individuals on CL.
I swear they could offer it in a 4 cylinder and you’d get lexus apologists here talking about not needing to take it to the racetrack.
An “army of unimpressed people” at CL who cant buy the car is meaningless.
Im not a Lexus apologist, I voted with my dollar, I just bought a loaded 2017 Lexus LS460L brand new vs waiting for an LS500. What did you buy? Answer is something not remotely comparable.
As for a V8 7 or S, optioned like that loaded $101,000 LS500 a S450 V6 would be $125,000, an S560 similarly optioned would be $140,000. Just option one up and see. I know because I just shopped them all and actually bought something in the segment.
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You really think $30,000 down, $20,000 trade and $700 a month for 72 months is out of reach for anyone here? We all own homes and have mortgages similar to that. As a USAF pilot for 10+ years I assure you my salary would suffice and possibly gain me access to this exclusive club of yours.
Let’s stay on topic and not insinuate what another member can, and cannot afford.
Let’s stay on topic and not insinuate what another member can, and cannot afford.
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You really think $30,000 down, $20,000 trade and $700 a month for 72 months is out of reach for anyone here? We all own homes and have mortgages similar to that. As a USAF pilot for 10+ years I assure you my salary would suffice and possibly gain me access to this exclusive club of yours.
Let’s stay on topic and not insinuate what another member can, and cannot afford.
it is on topic, because the point is what you think doesn’t really tell us anything about whether consumers for the actual product will buy it.
I can physically buy any car. If I wanted a $500,000 Rolls Royce Phantom 7 I could find a way to buy it. However, my opinion on it and whether it’s worthwhile is of no value because I’m not actually a consumer for that vehicle. You’re not a consumer for the LS500 so same is true for you as pertains to that.
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Still not answering my question. Physically being able to find the money and actually being a consumer in the segment are different things. Man up and admit you aren’t a consumer for a car of that caliber. If you loved the car you wouldn’t/couldn’t buy it. You did not choose to buy another similar priced car vs it. I did. That’s the point.
it is on topic, because the point is what you think doesn’t really tell us anything about whether consumers for the actual product will buy it.
I can physically buy any car. If I wanted a $500,000 Rolls Royce Phantom 7 I could find a way to buy it. However, my opinion on it and whether it’s worthwhile is of no value because I’m not actually a consumer for that vehicle. You’re not a consumer for the LS500 so same is true for you as pertains to that.
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Trying to decide betw. this and the S550/S63.....
IDK.. there's something about this car (maybe the side profile) that's not doing it for me... definitely not at that price range. Interior too is not as opulent as the S.....
Love Lex. cust. serv. though so this is going to be a tough choice
IDK.. there's something about this car (maybe the side profile) that's not doing it for me... definitely not at that price range. Interior too is not as opulent as the S.....
Love Lex. cust. serv. though so this is going to be a tough choice
Last edited by AustinHusk; Feb 21, 2018 at 01:31 PM.
