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My LS sitting on 24's fixing to under go series mods this weekend :)

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Old 09-11-15, 07:51 AM
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24's are HUGE! personal preference for ls460 are 21's perfect size!
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Old 12-10-15, 06:29 AM
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Nice car^^. Thought my 22" was big. Lol
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I could never do 24s as I spend a lot of time on the road. 22s is pushing it for me. Actually looking at downsizing to 21s which I think will be the best compromise for me with looks vs ride quality
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Originally Posted by pockyby
love the car but wheel way too big, cant see the tire,, how is the ride?

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Originally Posted by CJITTY
I could never do 24s as I spend a lot of time on the road. 22s is pushing it for me. Actually looking at downsizing to 21s which I think will be the best compromise for me with looks vs ride quality
My tire sizes are 255/30 and 275/25 Toyo's. The rear is stretched a little more than I would like. When Pirelli's come off backorder I'm switching to those with 285 in back but I'm loving the Toyo's so far.
My ride quality has been better than I expected. I have taken 3 road trip between 100 and 150 miles and have been very comfortable. I don't think (within context) rim size affects ride quality as much as most think on cars with forgiving suspensions. Everything after 35 series has such a stiff sidewall due to reinforcing it mostly rides the same. 255/30 and 275/25 on 22's or 24's will mostly ride the same. (I know I need a BBK upgrade for 24's) But if you decrease rim size and add more tire there will be a difference. So let's say Cjitty you go from your setup to a 245/35 and 295/ 35 on a 21 ride quality will increase.
Most of these opinions about poor ride quality comes from people who have never had experience with larger rims or extreme fitments. Not trying to ruffle any feathers but opinion is different from fact.
Old 12-11-15, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCase
My tire sizes are 255/30 and 275/25 Toyo's. The rear is stretched a little more than I would like. When Pirelli's come off backorder I'm switching to those with 285 in back but I'm loving the Toyo's so far.
My ride quality has been better than I expected. I have taken 3 road trip between 100 and 150 miles and have been very comfortable. I don't think (within context) rim size affects ride quality as much as most think on cars with forgiving suspensions. Everything after 35 series has such a stiff sidewall due to reinforcing it mostly rides the same. 255/30 and 275/25 on 22's or 24's will mostly ride the same. (I know I need a BBK upgrade for 24's) But if you decrease rim size and add more tire there will be a difference. So let's say Cjitty you go from your setup to a 245/35 and 295/ 35 on a 21 ride quality will increase.
Most of these opinions about poor ride quality comes from people who have never had experience with larger rims or extreme fitments. Not trying to ruffle any feathers but opinion is different from fact.
I can agree but a rule of thumb for me with any car is if i cant lower it then the wheels are too big, I like the look though but for me i like cars lowered as i believe they handle a little better. your ride look good though so no hate on my side all love on this forum.
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Wow, never seen 24's on an LS. Sick rims!
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Originally Posted by Futura Design Brakes
Wow, never seen 24's on an LS. Sick rims!
I need that BBK upgrade?!?!?!
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Nice car ,I've had 2sets of forgiatos a one set of Amani forged both 22s I'm thinking of doing 24s one question
Does it have to be lifted or cut I'm doing a 24x9 front an 24x10 rear with a 275-23-24 tires there smaller than the
275-25-24s
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Originally Posted by BigCase
So let's say Cjitty you go from your setup to a 245/35 and 295/ 35 on a 21 ride quality will increase.
Most of these opinions about poor ride quality comes from people who have never had experience with larger rims or extreme fitments. Not trying to ruffle any feathers but opinion is different from fact.
No feather ruffling here because to each their own and it's all about preference. But when it comes to my opinion, it is based on my personal experience over the course of 25 years of owning and driving cars and all of them being modded with aftermarket wheels and tires and always plus sizing. I can honestly say I have never driven in a car with 24 inch wheels. But I owned a 2007 LS460 with 18" oem tires. Ride was as cushy as can be. Then went up to 20s. The ride was nice, but definitely not as smooth. Then, I went to 22s. I noticed a significant difference. So on that car, I tolerated 22s mainly because I deal with nice suburb roads. Then, I got my LS600hL on oem air suspension with oem 19" wheels. Rides great, no doubt. Then put 22s on it...it's an immediate difference. I travel hundreds of miles one way (7 hours). I put my oem wheels and tires on for several reasons. I prefer my road trips to be comfortable and in case I have a tire catastrophe, I can run the spare with no issues or if I have a multiple flat situation due to large road debris field, I can easily get a replacement tire. So, perhaps I am becoming more old school, but when dropping the sidewall down in overall height, the tire will become stiffer..which means it will be less absorbing based on my experiences ranging from 18 to 22s on the same platform. So, I feel I know a thing or two about wheels and tires...good luck on them 4s, no hate going on here...
Old 01-29-16, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BigCase
My tire sizes are 255/30 and 275/25 Toyo's. The rear is stretched a little more than I would like. When Pirelli's come off backorder I'm switching to those with 285 in back but I'm loving the Toyo's so far.
My ride quality has been better than I expected. I have taken 3 road trip between 100 and 150 miles and have been very comfortable. I don't think (within context) rim size affects ride quality as much as most think on cars with forgiving suspensions. Everything after 35 series has such a stiff sidewall due to reinforcing it mostly rides the same. 255/30 and 275/25 on 22's or 24's will mostly ride the same. (I know I need a BBK upgrade for 24's) But if you decrease rim size and add more tire there will be a difference. So let's say Cjitty you go from your setup to a 245/35 and 295/ 35 on a 21 ride quality will increase.
Most of these opinions about poor ride quality comes from people who have never had experience with larger rims or extreme fitments. Not trying to ruffle any feathers but opinion is different from fact.

When you say "ride quality", are you comparing it to stock? Are you referring to "firmness" vs "comfortable"? The smaller sidewalls will definitely provide a harsher, firmer, and harder ride. The chances of bending a wheel, especially the inside barrel, are much, much higher with a 24" rim. Add that to a stretched tire and a 275/25 profile and it's just a matter of time before you have issues. I can imagine you changing lanes on a major highway where trucks make ruts in the road and have the inside barrel hit the rut......not good.

It's a matter of a balanced look (wheel size to car size) and keep the outside diameter of the tire within 3% of stock. I have not checked but I can almost guarantee the 275-25-24's are not within 3%.
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That's one thing I've noticed with this car is the ability to house huge wheels. I'm not sure if it's by design or purely coincidental, but that wheel well is gigantic comparatively speaking. This car can swallow wheels like nothing versus a Mercedes S550, where 18 inch standard OEM wheels looks like 20 inch wheels on our car, at least in regards to normal-height/stock cars.
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@cjitty my bad homie. I wasn't directing those statements toward you but toward the guy with the animated wagon wheel pic. Your knowledge and your builds are why I have an LS460. The videos on YouTube of the drive-bys sold me as soon as I saw them. You and Tee have been very informative and helpful with all the post and videos across the internet. You guys are LS460 God's. Much respect!!! I also swap oem on and off for roadtrips. Your write ups about the lowering springs and no camber kit are what swayed me towards the 24's. No fender gap without lowering. In truth airride and 22s would have been ideal and I am currently researching air suspensions. Also in showing the car, everyone does 22's, so 4's will definitely standout. Extreme is my thing I guess.
Old 01-29-16, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrbrown850
Nice car ,I've had 2sets of forgiatos a one set of Amani forged both 22s I'm thinking of doing 24s one question
Does it have to be lifted or cut I'm doing a 24x9 front an 24x10 rear with a 275-23-24 tires there smaller than the
275-25-24s
With the right offsets no. But to look more aggressive I pushed my wheels out and did require a roll in the front and a shave in the rear. I am running a +25 24x9 front and +38 24x10.5 rear. Is your LS460 oem air or not. If not and the car isn't lowered the front sits slightly high and for that reason I did 255/30 fronts and 275/25 rears. It gives the illusion that that the car sits level.... kinda... lol. I wouldn't run the 275/23 at all, it's not necessary. I would do 245/30 or 255/30 up front and 275/25 rears as in the pic.

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