Looking at used models and the perforated leather or pleather doesn't seem to hold up as well as the older non-ventilated stuff did. Aside from that, a big reason I like leather is ease of cleaning, and with perforations it almost might as well be cloth. I'd be sitting in the sweat, farts, and whatever else of someone else's 100k+ miles. Old carpet vs old hardwood, kinda thing.

It's hard to tell on some images, but it seems like all the LS460s, which would be my first choice, came with vented leather. Is anyone able to confirm or deny this? And maybe if it's also the same for the GS350, or even ES lineup? Thanks.

 

On my 14, the comfort package included the heated/cooled seats. I'm not sure if removing the comfort package would have removed the perforations in the leather. Plus, I'm not sure that many dealerships would have orders many cars without this option.

 

I have ventilated seats and have no trouble cleaning them. I spray Griot's leather cleaner on a microfiber and wipe it down 3-4 times a year. Nice LS460s are hard to find in general. Best wishes finding one without perforated seats. I suppose you could always buy a new skin for the driver's seat if it bothers you that much. It's a DIY job.