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Old Jan 7, 2020 | 08:13 AM
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I am surprised they can afford to sell it with shipping included from the US. That being said, I have bought cheap parts in the past and they can be hit or miss. ON my LS430 I paid roughly $60 a side for VVT solenoids which were claimed to be OEM Lexus and they've been working fine so far.
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Old Jan 7, 2020 | 09:09 AM
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On the amazon front, I received an email this morning stating that I may have purchased products that were not genuine.

It went on to say they recommend I immediately stop using and dispose of the items, and that amazon is issuing a refund for the purchase price and shipping. dang So it's very real in the Whole Foods parking lot!

"We have taken action against the individual who provided this product for abusing our systems."

The last product I bought came already opened and dented. not good.
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Old Jan 7, 2020 | 09:12 AM
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If Amazon refunds all the "non-genuine" purchases on their site, it's going to be a rough quarter!
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Old Jan 7, 2020 | 09:14 AM
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If Amazon refunds all the "non-genuine" purchases on their site, it's going to be a rough quarter!
LOL you know what I think, and I am a shareholder so my interests are more than that of a consumer.

Their return policy is way too liberal. I just got a part with seal broken, and product dented. Yesterday. Likely someone returned it, and someone said, "saleable." This is happening more and more it would seem. At least my shares have been bouncing back hahahahahahaha
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Old Jan 7, 2020 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 100Cars
I am surprised they can afford to sell it with shipping included from the US. That being said, I have bought cheap parts in the past and they can be hit or miss. ON my LS430 I paid roughly $60 a side for VVT solenoids which were claimed to be OEM Lexus and they've been working fine so far.
Ditto. I recently purchased a drivers side VVT solenoid off ebay claiming to be OEM. Box looks OEM, part doesn't IMO. It "works". I almost purchased NGK plugs off fleabay that claimed to be genuine, there was a feedback note that stated otherwise. Be careful people!
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Old Jan 8, 2020 | 06:07 AM
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I double checked my amazon order, and contrary to what the email led me to believe, my purchase was directly from amazon.com, not a 3rd party. And the refund hit my Chase CC. For amazon to do that 1 1/2 yrs. later, to me, acknowledges they have a serious problem.

Again, I was naive. I thought if I stick with amazon, and avoid 3rd parties, I won't get counterfeit. Now, I am absolutely positive that is not the case, based on the amazon sending me an email out of the blue and refunding me money, 1 1/2 yrs. later.

This month I am supposed to get a check from Takata as well what an all out scam, and a disgrace to simply go out of business. Imagine these cases are simply for lead plaintiffs and attorneys to clean up with, and the rest of the class gets little. A few hundred for lives....sad.
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Old Jan 8, 2020 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnhav430
I double checked my amazon order, and contrary to what the email led me to believe, my purchase was directly from amazon.com, not a 3rd party. And the refund hit my Chase CC. For amazon to do that 1 1/2 yrs. later, to me, acknowledges they have a serious problem.

Again, I was naive. I thought if I stick with amazon, and avoid 3rd parties, I won't get counterfeit. Now, I am absolutely positive that is not the case, based on the amazon sending me an email out of the blue and refunding me money, 1 1/2 yrs. later.

This month I am supposed to get a check from Takata as well what an all out scam, and a disgrace to simply go out of business. Imagine these cases are simply for lead plaintiffs and attorneys to clean up with, and the rest of the class gets little. A few hundred for lives....sad.
Was the refund for an automotive item?
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Old Jan 8, 2020 | 07:35 AM
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Was the refund for an automotive item?
No, it was for a bag which a child's car seat is put in, when flying lol

But I think it's legit that they have counterfeit in their pipeline. I used to think it was on purpose or 3rd party only. Now it's obvious amazon is getting ripped off by suppliers likely in a small %, and they take it seriously.

I had often wondered if rock gets ripped off because counterfeit GM was investigated by the FBI. And they sent me "E" series filters when their website stated clearly by p/n stated that they were "F." Why this matters is doesn't your inventory control system tightly prevent substitution like that? I think of the E as being below standard, and a F being a WIX XP type. The construction went down the drain. And at that time I ordered 12 filters. MY feeling is any inconsistency whatsoever means there is a way for things to not be what they are supposed to be. Like touching your eyes or putting your fingers in your mouth, and you have the flu 2 days later. You don't do that, you're healthy. Fraud needs a way in.

How about diamonds? The vast majority of stones do not have laser etching, it's not practical. How about a switcharoo during cleaning or resizing?
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Old Jan 8, 2020 | 08:06 PM
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Yep, it's counterfeit. Here is how it showed up, just a plain white box, falling apart with some crappy label slapped on it....at least I know and already got a refund.

Would be interesting to test this to a known factory part to see the differences.


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Originally Posted by biosurfer1
Yep, it's counterfeit. Here is how it showed up, just a plain white box, falling apart with some crappy label slapped on it....at least I know and already got a refund.

Would be interesting to test this to a known factory part to see the differences.

So you gave up the savings because of the box? Probably the same part from the same factory. How was the box going to help you?
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Old Jan 8, 2020 | 08:27 PM
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No, I gave up the savings because it's clearly not a factory part, not a factory box, and not a factory label.

Be my guest to put one in your car, I'm not interested in finding out what a random part of unknown origins does to our cars.
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 06:14 AM
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That's why I truly appreciated the member who bought the Denso $80 radiator and then bought the radiator from the dealer to investigate if they were the same, and they were not.

Here's what I'm using for my tensioner pulley job. I think they are real, but there's no way to truly know. Look and feel real and I'm using Bando for $14....the tensioner was $64 on eBay, and the pulley was $36 amazon. Again since OE is $94 v. $96, wheel alone v. entire tensioner with wheel, I decided that I'll take the wheel off and save the tensioner in its box....if I could in fact find the right Dayco wheel I would. But there are disclaimers which say the wheel will not fit the OE tensioner, so rather than fool around I paid the $64



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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 09:33 AM
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The Dayco 89006 does work for the tensioner, I used it when I replaced mine. However, the ones that are being sold now are all using a cheap PRC bearing vs the NTN bearing they were using before. It is still possible to find one with a NTN bearing like I did, but you have to look for old stock.
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 09:44 AM
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The Dayco 89006 does work for the tensioner, I used it when I replaced mine. However, the ones that are being sold now are all using a cheap PRC bearing vs the NTN bearing they were using before. It is still possible to find one with a NTN bearing like I did, but you have to look for old stock.
Gotcha, that could potentially save $44 as it's $20 on amazon, with the green bearing. But when you say cheap, does that translate to failure or shortened life? And btw, on the other pulley, is that bolt left hand as well i.e. clockwise to remove?
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnhav430
Gotcha, that could potentially save $44 as it's $20 on amazon, with the green bearing. But when you say cheap, does that translate to failure or shortened life? And btw, on the other pulley, is that bolt left hand as well i.e. clockwise to remove?
Shortened life and possible failure, I've read several reviews of it starting to squeak after 5-6 months and some said it started squeaking right after they put it in. YMMV. And yes, you turn the bolt clockwise to remove it. Be aware you will need to remove the airbox to allow enough room for a torque wrench to tighten it back up.
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