After 6 sets of tires seems they wear in the middle more versus on the shoulders when I shoot for 33 psi at least here in Wisconsin, temperatures and fluctuations and attention to PSI have alot to do with trie wear. I think if I was shooting for 34 I would be getting more center tire wear. Most my miles are hwy from Appleton to Fond du lac daily 90 miles round trip to work.

 

I start doing 34-35 psi tires ride like a brick.

 

35 lbs on V rated Prinacys. Even across after 15,000 miles.

 

Not following the factory, isn't that what our grandfather's did? I think that reasoning is gone. They used to say they don't follow the factory because the factory wanted a soft ride. I've been following the door sticker on all my cars since 1998. Since BMW has 2 sets of numbers, I follow the one for performance.

 

In a way, I feel that Firestone does a better job than BMW (who broke a sensor wire adjusting the rear toe), but I won't bring my BMW to them (go figure). I honestly feel the lifetime alignments which cost $170 to $190, are ones in which the house loses. I suppose if one shops around, an alignment can be as cheap as $60. Using that number, the break-even is 3. My wife has already had 2 in 6k, and I was contemplating bringing it back again cuz I scuffed a curb and was curious if the rear right is out again. On the LS430, I haven't gotten around to bringing it back, and prolly went 8k. I'd be curious to see if any numbers got worse, the rear right was -1.9 which was out of spec, wonder if it got worse or stayed put....at firestone they centered both wheels perfectly. At BMW, they failed to do that (probably laziness). Actually, I should go back and look at the BMW paperwork--I'd be curious if they set all the numbers in the center of the range. I admit, firestone attempts to make everything green, they don't necessarily adjust things to the middle of the range.

 

Jabberwock. Did you actually feel a difference after replacing your LCA bushings with what I hope were OEM? Please tell. I just ordered OEM fluid filled LCA bushings from Ebay to install at the same time I'm getting my new P7 Pirellis. I hope it makes a difference but regardless is a very reasonable investment at $100 and change for the bushings and about $100 to install.

 

Finally had 17" Michelin Premiers and new 17" rims installed yesterday at Discount Tire.
There is a definite decrease in road noise and increase in comfort going from 18" to 17" tires.
The front vibration is gone since going to new rims. I would encourage anyone with OEM rims and vibration to have them forced balanced to make sure the rims aren't bent.
I have two of the 18" OEM lexus rims that I will be selling. I will clean them up and take pictures shortly.

 

Got my set of 4 Pirelli P7 Cinturato A/S plus delivered today. Can't give an opinion since they are piled in a stack of 4 in my foyer. Waiting for my Caster Bushings to be installed next week and then the tire install followed by the alignment. It was a very hard decision choosinig tires since I've come from the treasured leader of Grand Touring Tires.. Michelin Primacys... I've always been a fan of Michelins but needed to make a change at this time. Hopefully I can return back with a full critical review of the P7s with all the details. Stay tuned fans!!!!

 

well, I was wrong. I didn't get the Michelin Premier tires. I looked at the receipt and I ended up with the Michelin Defender tires. why they ordered those I have no idea but I call Discount Tire and they're ordering me the Michelin Premier tires and I will switch them out.

 

Defender might be T rated tires

 

Good, you should get what you wanted....when my wife got the Premiers, they were "Lost" at Costco. very weird, seriously, unusual. I bet it was a 5 finger discount. So the second time they gave me FedEx tracking to the store, and 4 tires were shipped overnight (can you imagine the cost even to amazon due to like 31 lbs. each?). I saw they went from the Michelin distribution center in IL to the store in DE....when you spend your time researching and decide upon a specific make/model, imho there shouldn't be any substitution....

 

Don't feel bad. A few days ago when ordering my 4 P7s from tire rack, 2 ended up at my door. Where where the other 2 ? I called UPS and of course Tire Rack and it turns out the driver dropped them off at Tire Kingdom in another town, not even looking at the address and name! I ended up getting the other 2 yesterday. As far as manufacturer dates, my tires are extremely hard to find with the V rating and load rating of 97V. Tire kingdom and Pep Boys could not get them period! 2 tires were manufactured last month, and 2 were manufactured 11 months ago. I'm ok with that. I've heard of someone purchasing at another on line vendor (not naming them) with a manufacturing date close to 3 years old.

 

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tir...-%2b-h/p/32518

Should I settle for these or get the Premiers? I will pay $10 difference for each tire for the Premiers.

Based on the reviews on Amazon people either hated or loved the tire.

 

I have to give the Michelin Premier A/S a double thumbs up.

Over the years, the tire of choice for my daily driver has been the Michelin MXV4. A few years ago, I bought a set of Premier A/S for my 2003 LS430. They were installed on 5-spoke Lexus 18” rims, from the 2004-2006 series. Tire size was 245/45/18. The car previously had 17” chrome rims, with a generic tire (don’t remember the brand). The new rims/tires changed the driving experience substantially. Firmer, tighter, much more fun.

A few months ago, I bought a 2005 LS430, with the UL package. It had 17” OEM rims, also with a generic tire. I swapped the wheels, so my 2005 now has the 5-spoke Lexus 18” rims, with the Premier A/S tires. Between the two cars, the total mileage to date on these tires is about 13K. On the 2005, I have also been experimenting with the settings for sport and air suspension.

In my opinion, the Premier A/S is a great tire for this car. Handling is crisp and precise, and the tire does everything reasonably well. I haven’t driven the car in snow or heavy rain (I live in San Diego), so I can’t comment on those conditions.

Also, I should mention that while this is not the quietest tire I have ever driven, it is not bad (actually it is pretty good). However, if you are looking for a quiet ride, I think your efforts might be better served by looking at other areas of your vehicle – including the grease on your door and window seals. < Do a search on these forums for “wind noise” / “silicone grease” / “Shin-Etsu” and you will begin to understand. >

 

Now thats what I like......a review that you can tell isnt biased.....just a real life review. Thanks DESIGNDUDE.......your findings support what many have said about the tire.

Boca I cant wait to here your review........hope the tires work out for you as I am sure they will.