Pinging without throttle. Stumped.
The cat(s) are the likely culprit for several reasons. First, I checked and/or replaced a multitude of parts, so there's very few left. It's not something external that is banging around, I've checked every part under the car many times and everything is secure. Engine oil and trans fluid are clean. If one of the two cores is loose inside a cat, it could rattle depending on different frequencies of vibration in the exhaust flow, and vary depending on any slight change in the shape of the cat casing, which can result from minor flexing of the exhaust system under different loads and conditions. If a core is loose but not broken it won't leave pieces downstream in the exhaust, and I haven't found any when I replaced the y-pipe. Also, it likely won't throw a code since the exhaust still passes through the intact core structure within the cat. The area where the cats are is exactly where the noise sounds to be coming from, ruling out anything from the front seat rearward. The video I posted in this thread is the only clip I've heard where the sound and pattern of it's occurrence is EXACTLY the same as mine. Also, this noise appears to be extremely rare since no other members have reported it. A loose but intact cat core that doesn't throw a code is likely a very rare problem with the LS430.
The parts shipped today and I'll have em on the 30th, hopefully I can get them installed soon after and get to the bottom of this!
Back on the lift in the morning to fix the gasket leaks, I re-installed the y-pipe. Leaks fixed, but just didn't sound right, and I was determined to find this rattle. Put it back on the lift and noticed this area of the center pipe resting on a crossmember. In a eureka moment I thought I had found the rattle source. I used a transmission jack to raise the exhaust pipe and re-tightened the clamp, and the pipe then stayed up off the crossmember but was still close. I then used a couple exhaust clamps to support the rubber hangers further back, and a few washers to drop the crossmember a bit, providing ample clearance for the pipe to move around under varying driveline loads.
The rattle noise is definitely less frequent, but still occurs. I'm guessing some other area is rubbing up close to the motor, but couldn't find anything today. I'm kind of disappointed in the design of the center area of the exhaust, it appears that over time the exhaust sags at the joint between the y-pipe and resonator assembly and comes into contact with that crossmember. Grrrrr...
You know, from your description of the sound it seems to me you are describing a whine not so much a rattle. A constant tone? Am I right?
Last edited by Lavrishevo; Jan 4, 2015 at 10:53 AM.
You know, from your description of the sound it seems to me you are describing a whine not so much a rattle. A constant tone? Am I right?
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Last edited by Lavrishevo; Jan 5, 2015 at 10:14 AM.









