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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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The 2002 Canadian Lexus All-Models Maintenance Guide says all models should replace the timing belt every 72 months or 144,000km, whichever comes first.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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I changed my underwear yesterday. I wish I would have kept wearing them until next week.

- Just change the belt when its recommended.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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I have 65000 on my 2002. When 90000 comes around, its in the shop for timing belt, water pump, and drive belt. I'm even concerned right now because of age. Just me though.
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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I finally got my timing belt and 90k service done. I have a 2005 LS430 which had 110k + when I brought it in. I kinda regret though. I think I should've gotten the 120k service instead of the 90k.
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by balfor
There certainly are people who keep rolling past 90k I read somewhere on the forums one guy had 170k on the timing belt to the point teeth were stripping on the belt. I'm sure the Lexus recommendation is conservative, think of the unhappy customers that would result from belts breaking at 80k. I'm guessing that the belt is certainly good to 110k to 140k (so about 50% above recommendation) before the belt becomes critical.

However, remember that on the 430 engine the valves will hit the pistons if failure occurs so basically the top half of your engine will be destroyed. The head will have to be pulled and valves replaced at a minimum, so you are talking big $$$$$. Much better to change at 90k and have peace of mind. I plan on doing mine myself for about $400 in parts, I think I can tackle the job I've done it on other cars.
Belts don't break that often unless you really put on the miles but they do stretch. Once it stretches too much the tensioner cannot take up the slack and its just as bad. The guy that said he had 170K without a change is full of crap. I doubt a belt would last that long.
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by chunkyda
I have an 05 LS430 with 106,000. I am scheduled to get this service done for just over $1,000 within 2 weeks. I will ask them to keep the belt so I can see it and maybe I'll take a picture if there is any damage or noticeable wear. This was a leased car from Miami and I got it with 64,000.
I got the timing belt, water pump, serpentine belt, spark plugs, front brake pads, trans fluid, brake fluid, power steering fluid, coolant, some other minors... all for $1260. I have the old belt and it has one minor worn tooth. I'll post a picture in a few days. Back to worry free motoring.
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sethjon
The guy that said he had 170K without a change is full of crap. I doubt a belt would last that long.
I dont. I have almost 150k on my RX with the origional belt. I am not going to try and make it last to 170k but I would not be shocked if it would.
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sethjon
Belts don't break that often unless you really put on the miles but they do stretch. Once it stretches too much the tensioner cannot take up the slack and its just as bad. The guy that said he had 170K without a change is full of crap. I doubt a belt would last that long.
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I dont. I have almost 150k on my RX with the origional belt. I am not going to try and make it last to 170k but I would not be shocked if it would.
I don't either. As Lexus LS owners, we like to error on the side of spending cash whenever possible. Ive seen references on the web of tundra (same TB system) owners holding out until 200k plush. My 98 toyota avalon with 160k miles on the original belt and I have no plans to ever change it.
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by vollandt
As Lexus LS owners, we like to error on the side of spending cash whenever possible.
That is worthy of a signature quote
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 12:27 AM
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According to the official Lexus information supplied in NL, the replacement of the timing belt is at 150,000 km (c. 90,000 mi) or 8 years, whatever comes first.

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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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It's funny how I see many 15+ year old Lexus models on the road with windows that don't operate, A/C that don't blow cold, fenders pushed in and yet they are still chugging along. It might have been a high end car when new but they are now used by many who can't afford a later model car but still want reliability. These people don't have money for repairs and for the most part our cars are not "break down" cars and will continue to start up and drive. Maintenance items will go neglected on many of these cars which proves how well they are built.

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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bocatrip
It's funny how I see many 25+ year old Lexus models on the road
Must be a lot of prototype cars on the roads these days
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by chunkyda
I got the timing belt, water pump, serpentine belt, spark plugs, front brake pads, trans fluid, brake fluid, power steering fluid, coolant, some other minors... all for $1260. I have the old belt and it has one minor worn tooth. I'll post a picture in a few days. Back to worry free motoring.
Here are the photos of my old belt. There is one tooth where the threads are quite visible (not sure why it is only one) and another area where a bit of the threads are flapping in the breeze from the edge. The belt is flipped inside out for photo purposes.
I believe the Toyota engineers specified a belt with strength to last well more than 90,000 miles and recommend that interval to replace the 1-2% outliers that will fail early. there is no way the average life is anywhere close to 90,000.
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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I replaced the TB/WP in the '98 LS400 at around 85k miles and it was in fine shape. Interestingly, when I sent for the parts, the parts guy commented that "I have 130k on my Lexus... I should replace the TB soon!"
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MrXerox
Must be a lot of prototype cars on the roads these days
Got me on that one. I meant 15+ years. I think I might be a prototype.
I made the correction on the previous post.
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