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Old 03-11-10, 10:38 AM
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found a car decent in price. $20k for 04 with 67k miles, ML pack, color that i want. still gotta see in person.
but carfax showed 3 previous owners already. owner #1 had it for 1.5 yrs, #2 for 4 yrs then 3rd one for only 3months. then sold in auction to this dealer.
any red flag here?

im still gonna see it and look for any cosmetic damages. if everything checks out ok, then take it to lexus dealer for full 27 point inspection.

also what r some of the maintenance that needs done at 60k?
Old 03-11-10, 11:19 AM
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A 3 month owner would make it a virtual automatic pass for me unless it was some kind of booking keeping deal, or title transfer deal between companies. If it was an actual owner - that's a red flag no matter what excuse they tell you on what happened - there's lots of cars out there that come up with clean CarFAX on a regular basis so be careful and patient. If the car was absolutely a perfect fit I would try hard to talk to that last owner

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Old 03-11-10, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jabberwock
A 3 month owner would make it a virtual automatic pass for me unless it was some kind of booking keeping deal, or title transfer deal between companies. If it was an actual owner - that's a red flag no matter what excuse they tell you on what happened - there's lots of cars out there that come up with clean CarFAX on a regular basis so be careful and patient. If the car was absolutely a perfect fit I would try hard to talk to that last owner
is there way to find out the 3rd owner? cuz they got this at an auction.
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Maybe just old folks that drove it... and didn't like it.
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the short-term owner of the car could be anyone. You'll likely never find out. I was told there is some "privacy" laws regarding previous owners.

2 ways to find out however... Look in the glovebox for any papers or receipts. Particularly in the owners manual

Secondly, ask to see the title. Tell them you want to check it out personally. It could list the previous owner.

In this economy, people are loosing their jobs left and right. Thinking you are safe at work and then loosing your job can take place at any minute. So, the prior owner might be a victim on the times. Doesn't mean they were a bad owner...
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dkang,
Could be trouble but then again there are millions of reasons it could have been a short term owner. Take it to the dealership and let them decide if the car is worthy of your ownership. While you are at it take it to a body shop too. just my thoughts.
Good luck!
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Originally Posted by DDLexus
the short-term owner of the car could be anyone. You'll likely never find out. I was told there is some "privacy" laws regarding previous owners.

2 ways to find out however... Look in the glovebox for any papers or receipts. Particularly in the owners manual

Secondly, ask to see the title. Tell them you want to check it out personally. It could list the previous owner.

In this economy, people are loosing their jobs left and right. Thinking you are safe at work and then loosing your job can take place at any minute. So, the prior owner might be a victim on the times. Doesn't mean they were a bad owner...
economic hardship might be the reason. but i really have no way to find out.
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I'd login to My Lexus and see what there is for service history on the car via the VIN...

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Originally Posted by JimsGX
I'd login to My Lexus and see what there is for service history on the car via the VIN...

Jim
WOWOW this is awesome. i can see all the history. thanks man
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If the service was done by a Lexus dealer, yes...
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Heres the history guys...anything look fishy? all maint done correctly?

Service Type Service Date Service Provider Mileage Description
Dealer Reported 10/29/2009 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 63892 0169819 -60,000 MILES OR 48 MONTHS MAINTE
Dealer Reported 10/29/2009 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 63892 0169819 BLEMISHES NOTED: 3 SCRATCHES
Dealer Reported 10/29/2009 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 63892 0169819 MULTI-POINT
Dealer Reported 10/29/2009 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 63892 0169819 LOANER
Dealer Reported 03/24/2009 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 54158 0149793 50,000 MILE SERVICE ALL MODELS
Dealer Reported 03/24/2009 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 54158 0149793 REPLACE REAR BRAKE PADS (INCLUDES MACHINE ROTORS)
Dealer Reported 03/24/2009 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 54158 0149793 CUSTOMER STATES: BLUETOOTH MAKES
Dealer Reported 03/24/2009 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 54158 0149793 IN ORDER TO PROVIDE OUTSTANDING S
Dealer Reported 03/24/2009 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 54158 0149793 BLEMISHES NOTED: 2 OTHERS
Dealer Reported 03/24/2009 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 54158 0149793 MULTI-POINT
Dealer Reported 08/15/2008 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 47100 0131154 PERFORM 45,000 MILE SERVICE PER LEXUS GUIDELINES
Dealer Reported 08/15/2008 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 47100 0131154 PERFORM COMPLETE VEHICLE SAFETY INSPECTION FDCI
Dealer Reported 08/15/2008 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 47100 0131154
Dealer Reported 08/15/2008 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 47100 0131154 INCOMPLETED WORK INSPECTED OR DIA
Dealer Reported 08/15/2008 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 47100 0131154 IN ORDER TO PROVIDE OUTSTANDING S
Dealer Reported 08/15/2008 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 47100 0131154 PERFORM POWER STEERING SYSTEM FLU
Dealer Reported 05/13/2008 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 44299 0122656 REPLACE LEFT REAR DOOR GLASS
Dealer Reported 05/13/2008 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 44299 0122656 IN ORDER TO PROVIDE OUTSTANDING S
Dealer Reported 03/11/2008 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 41481 0117112 PERFORM 40,000 MILE SERVICE PER LEXUS GUIDELINES
Dealer Reported 03/11/2008 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 41481 0117112 PERFORM 27 POINT INSPECTION
Dealer Reported 03/11/2008 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 41481 0117112 IN ORDER TO PROVIDE OUTSTANDING S
Dealer Reported 03/11/2008 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 41481 0117112 REPLACE FRONT BRAKE PADS (INCLUDES MACHINE ROTORS)
Dealer Reported 11/30/2007 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 38733 0107580 INSTALLED NEW DISC.
Dealer Reported 11/30/2007 Park Place Lexus Mission Viejo 38733 0107580 INSTALLED NEW BACK-UP CAMERA
Dealer Reported 08/12/2005 Tustin Lexus 16127 0084616 4LB REPL FUEL PUMP KIT (SSC) - SSC
Dealer Reported 08/12/2005 Tustin Lexus 16127 0084616 4LC REPL AUTO TRANS (SSC) - SSC
Dealer Reported 08/10/2005 Tustin Lexus 16127 0084616 4LB REPL FUEL PUMP KIT (SSC) - SSC
Dealer Reported 08/10/2005 Tustin Lexus 16127 0084616 4LC REPL AUTO TRANS (SSC) - SSC
Dealer Reported 02/12/2004 36 0032000 WASH AND CLEAN VEHICLE
Dealer Reported 02/09/2004 15 0031735 DETAILED VEHICLE INSIDE AND OUT
Dealer Reported 02/06/2004 15 0031445 PRE DELEVERY INSPECTION
Dealer Reported 02/06/2004 15 0031445 INSTALLED PLATES AND MATS
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3-month owner was most likely a dealer who swapped it to another dealer for whatever reason (couldn't get if off the lot in time or trade for another vehicle etc..).
I personally wouldn't care how many owners as long as it had perfecrt maintenance records.
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i would say call the mission viejo lexus and see if they remember the fella and have any more infor with the VIN, Tranny, fuel pump what does order to provide outstanding service mean? Is it late service?
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just talked to park lexus service rep and he said this is an outstanding maint car. he said he would get it.
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talked to seller(dealer) and he said, this is probably a trade in from 2nd owner to park lexus who had to transder title to sell it in auction(3month period). then this current dealer bought it from auction.
makes sense huh?


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