Trailer Hitch on LS430
#61
Driver School Candidate
mjfn, I hate to say it, but from all indications, there is a high probability that there will be electrical issues from an install of that harness. The only question is whether the issues people have had in the past have resulted from corrosion of the splices over time, or just from having additional load on the electrical system for which it was not designed to accommodate. If it's from the later, then there's no way around it. If it's the former, then greater care can be taken during the install to completely seal the splices from the elements (water, snow, road salt, etc.)
It sounds like you know your limits, and if you've got no mechanical savvy then you certainly wouldn't be able to do a better job than the Lexus technicians.
The only advice I could give is to search for an independent shop that specializes in aftermarket installs and custom work. They are likely to have a better handle on how to do the work-arounds necessary to pull this off without issues.
It sounds like you know your limits, and if you've got no mechanical savvy then you certainly wouldn't be able to do a better job than the Lexus technicians.
The only advice I could give is to search for an independent shop that specializes in aftermarket installs and custom work. They are likely to have a better handle on how to do the work-arounds necessary to pull this off without issues.
#62
Driver School Candidate
The last Lexus I installed a trailer hitch and wiring harness on myself was a 2000 LS400. I used a general purpose wiring harness similar to the Tekonsha you bought from etrailer which is where I've bought a number of trailer hitches, wiring harnesses, bike racks and other stuff.
I would be very surprised if installing a wiring harness like the Tekonsha would cause electrical problems since the Tekonsha's converter box is powered from the vehicle battery. A trailer harness converter box is really only a set of electrical relays in a compact package that uses the vehicle's running light, brake light and turn signals as relay triggers with the power for the trailer lights coming from the vehicle battery. This is explained in the video about the Tekonsha harness on the etrailer website.
If you are conscious and mobile, then you probably have the skill set needed to install the Tekonsha. You will, however need basic tools, which the Tekonsha's installation instructions probably list. You might need to elevate the vehicle on jack stands if you run the power wire underneath the car to the engine compartment. Some people think they have to run trailer light power wires through the interior but there is little danger of a power wire ran underneath a vehicle being damaged as long as common sense is used when zip tying the power wire to the vehicle.
The installation might be a little more difficult if you want the trailer light connector mounted on the exterior of your LS430. As much as I disliked closing a trunk lid on trailer light harness wires, that's the way I did it during the 11 years I towed with my 2000 LS400. I now tow with a Sienna van although I also installed a hitch on our Prius v which is totally capable of towing our 4'x8' utility trailer.
If you are going to use only a "4-flat" trailer light connector and want it on the exterior, an especially nice solution for mounting it is a Hopkins 48595 bracket. The attached photo shows the Hopkins bracket that I installed on our Sienna - high quality and only $4. Installing the connector on the exterior of an LS430 might require chopping the wires leading to Tekonsha's connector and then splicing the wires back together with butt connectors since you may not find an existing hole in the body large enough to pass the connector through. Look for an existing grommet in your trunk.
My main cautions are: Follow the instructions and do not take shortcuts. I've been involved in many discussions on car forums about installing tow hitches and electrical harnesses and most of the problems people have reported were due to not following instructions.
If you don't want to tackle this project yourself, maybe you can find an indie Lexus repair shop that would do it for you. I would expect this task to take no more than one hour for someone who understands the basics of working on vehicles made by Toyota.
I would be very surprised if installing a wiring harness like the Tekonsha would cause electrical problems since the Tekonsha's converter box is powered from the vehicle battery. A trailer harness converter box is really only a set of electrical relays in a compact package that uses the vehicle's running light, brake light and turn signals as relay triggers with the power for the trailer lights coming from the vehicle battery. This is explained in the video about the Tekonsha harness on the etrailer website.
If you are conscious and mobile, then you probably have the skill set needed to install the Tekonsha. You will, however need basic tools, which the Tekonsha's installation instructions probably list. You might need to elevate the vehicle on jack stands if you run the power wire underneath the car to the engine compartment. Some people think they have to run trailer light power wires through the interior but there is little danger of a power wire ran underneath a vehicle being damaged as long as common sense is used when zip tying the power wire to the vehicle.
The installation might be a little more difficult if you want the trailer light connector mounted on the exterior of your LS430. As much as I disliked closing a trunk lid on trailer light harness wires, that's the way I did it during the 11 years I towed with my 2000 LS400. I now tow with a Sienna van although I also installed a hitch on our Prius v which is totally capable of towing our 4'x8' utility trailer.
If you are going to use only a "4-flat" trailer light connector and want it on the exterior, an especially nice solution for mounting it is a Hopkins 48595 bracket. The attached photo shows the Hopkins bracket that I installed on our Sienna - high quality and only $4. Installing the connector on the exterior of an LS430 might require chopping the wires leading to Tekonsha's connector and then splicing the wires back together with butt connectors since you may not find an existing hole in the body large enough to pass the connector through. Look for an existing grommet in your trunk.
My main cautions are: Follow the instructions and do not take shortcuts. I've been involved in many discussions on car forums about installing tow hitches and electrical harnesses and most of the problems people have reported were due to not following instructions.
If you don't want to tackle this project yourself, maybe you can find an indie Lexus repair shop that would do it for you. I would expect this task to take no more than one hour for someone who understands the basics of working on vehicles made by Toyota.
#63
Lead Lap
Thanks for your advice, Kansas, and all the info you provided. You've set my mind at ease, a bit, regarding how safe the Tekonsha converter box is to use. I wish I had your confidence to install the wiring but, unfortunately, I don't. Now if etrailer had a video for my exact car or if I had someone who knew what to do holding my hand, I might give it a try. I wish I lived near an indie Lexus shop. I think I will be relying on the expertise of a trailer specialty shop.
Send me a PM if you want to take this offline. I've got time on my hands since I retired a few months ago!
#64
Reviving this thread looking for a little advice. Since I'm not an overly handy fellow, I had the Curt hitch recently installed on my '05 LS at a Canadian Lexus dealer with the understanding they would also install the Tekonsha wiring harness (recommended by etrailer) I had also provided. However, when I went to retrieve my car, I was told they did not install the harness because they had dealt with many Lexus vehicles with electrical/electronic issues caused by aftermarket trailer wiring harnesses and they weren't confident regarding the Tekonsha harness. After discovering that a Lexus trailer wiring harness was not available for the car, the service manager reluctantly agreed to set up another appointment to install the wiring but said that he couldn't guarantee there wouldn't be electrical issues.
I emailed etrailer to double check that the Tekonsha harness could be installed problem-free. Etrailer responded indicating that electrical problems had indeed been reported to them by owners of high end cars who used the splice-in harnesses and I was to use my discretion whether to install the Tekonsha product - not exactly a resounding vote of confidence.
I'm really not sure how to proceed at this point. I think I have read through all of the the threads pertaining to how to do the wiring install and have a basic idea of how everything is supposed to work but I don't have the skill set to do it myself. My question to the members who have done the wiring install themselves or have had others do it for them...have you had any type of electric or electronic failure that can be attributed to the wiring harness.
Thanks for any advice you can give me.
I emailed etrailer to double check that the Tekonsha harness could be installed problem-free. Etrailer responded indicating that electrical problems had indeed been reported to them by owners of high end cars who used the splice-in harnesses and I was to use my discretion whether to install the Tekonsha product - not exactly a resounding vote of confidence.
I'm really not sure how to proceed at this point. I think I have read through all of the the threads pertaining to how to do the wiring install and have a basic idea of how everything is supposed to work but I don't have the skill set to do it myself. My question to the members who have done the wiring install themselves or have had others do it for them...have you had any type of electric or electronic failure that can be attributed to the wiring harness.
Thanks for any advice you can give me.
*edit* I found my old post, that includes wire colors, photos and pictures of properly soldered and heat shrink connections!
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...ml#post6909950
Last edited by cyclehead; 06-03-19 at 03:55 AM.
#65
Bumping this thread with some questions.
What hitch ball mount goes with this hitch to be able to pull U-Haul motorcycle trailer or a utility trailer? Potentially Kendon folding motorcycle trailer too.
I understand the car end will need to be 1 1/4". I will have to use 2" ball. Ball hole should be 3/4". How much rise is needed? (Assuming no drop is needed as hitch looks low on car)
What hitch ball mount goes with this hitch to be able to pull U-Haul motorcycle trailer or a utility trailer? Potentially Kendon folding motorcycle trailer too.
I understand the car end will need to be 1 1/4". I will have to use 2" ball. Ball hole should be 3/4". How much rise is needed? (Assuming no drop is needed as hitch looks low on car)
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BMW7_LS430 (02-28-22)
#67
Unfortunately I had to modify a Hayman Reese tow bar for my 2002 430 as they do not make them in Australia .
Haven't done the wiring for it yet and asking what is the best wiring boost kit to get ??
Haven't done the wiring for it yet and asking what is the best wiring boost kit to get ??
#68
U-haul site lists this wiring harness along with the curt hitch. https://www.uhaul.com/MovingSupplies...Flat/?id=13684
Will this work or it has to be a powered harness? This one has ground but no power wire.
Will this work or it has to be a powered harness? This one has ground but no power wire.
#70
Just ordered one of these , https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171352163243
Pretty sure that will do the job .
Pretty sure that will do the job .
#71
Driver School Candidate
I also installed a Curt Hitch on my 2002 LS 430. I have had it for 5 years now as I use it to move my log splitter around. My only complaint is it does hang down and has scraped when backing out of some driveways, so I now do not back out straight, and usually turn the wheel to avoid scraping. Other than that I am happy with it.
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bjchilds1 (03-21-22)
#72
Never mind,. I found the wiring information I was looking for.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...ts-wiring.html
Yet to do it so will update when it works.
PSA: Wiring colors are different between 2002 and 2004.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...ts-wiring.html
Yet to do it so will update when it works.
PSA: Wiring colors are different between 2002 and 2004.
Last edited by BMW7_LS430; 10-02-22 at 09:12 AM. Reason: Found answer in the thread
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