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stoney1997 04-14-18 01:46 PM

Bad Master switch or dead window motor?
 
Winter has finally disappeared in good ol' East Tennessee and I've finally had the chance to tackle the little issues.

I have a problem with, possibly, the master switch. The driver side window will roll down, but not up unless I tug and pull until it randomly decides to go up again, IF IT DOES. The other 3 windows work perfectly fine. I can hear all the clicks when I mess with the other windows, but I hear nothing when trying to mess with the drivers window.

I took off the switch, and looked at it, and it looks like the metal/copper lead going to the drivers switch is "burnt" or kind of a warped color but everything else looks mint.
So could I save a few dollars by just buying a master switch or do I need to dig deeper to see if the window motor is bad (too)?

Moarpower 04-14-18 07:53 PM

I have swapped out and cannibalised many of these switches. They are very temperamental and extremely fragile these days.

I would honestly start buying a few when you see them. Get a working one and check if it works. Always replace the cheapest part first after diagnosis.

stoney1997 04-15-18 12:19 AM


Originally Posted by Moarpower (Post 10172412)
I have swapped out and cannibalised many of these switches. They are very temperamental and extremely fragile these days.

I would honestly start buying a few when you see them. Get a working one and check if it works. Always replace the cheapest part first after diagnosis.

Well I went ahead and bought a switch off ebay for $30, so we will see by next week if I bought a fancy new gadget that doesn't work or the holy grail.

blkstealthpaid4 04-14-20 01:32 PM

worked?
 

Originally Posted by stoney1997 (Post 10172522)


Well I went ahead and bought a switch off ebay for $30, so we will see by next week if I bought a fancy new gadget that doesn't work or the holy grail.

Did it fix it

stoney1997 04-14-20 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by blkstealthpaid4 (Post 10780727)
Did it fix it

Actually yes. Surprised to see a comment 2 years later.

The original master switch had archs and whatnot along the path for the drivers switch and part of the passenger switch. Plugged in the new switch and Everything worked perfectly fine afterwards. Its definitely the cheaper option to go for to sort out whether it' a switch or a window motor.

CELSI0R 04-15-20 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by blkstealthpaid4 (Post 10780727)
Did it fix it

What are the symptoms your car has?

I would recommend testing the motor first, before buying the switch. All it takes is a battery and a few jumper wires to the connector.

Does your window work at all? Does the motor make any noise? Do your other windows work?

blkstealthpaid4 04-15-20 08:45 AM

I replaced with a switch from the junkyard.Unless my junkyard switch was bad

blkstealthpaid4 04-15-20 08:46 AM

My junkyard's window cancel button was sticking.smh.So I need a to try a 3rd switch.smh

greasegun 04-16-20 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by stoney1997 (Post 10172169)
Winter has finally disappeared in good ol' East Tennessee and I've finally had the chance to tackle the little issues.

I have a problem with, possibly, the master switch. The driver side window will roll down, but not up unless I tug and pull until it randomly decides to go up again, IF IT DOES. The other 3 windows work perfectly fine. I can hear all the clicks when I mess with the other windows, but I hear nothing when trying to mess with the drivers window.

I took off the switch, and looked at it, and it looks like the metal/copper lead going to the drivers switch is "burnt" or kind of a warped color but everything else looks mint.
So could I save a few dollars by just buying a master switch or do I need to dig deeper to see if the window motor is bad (too)?

I just opened mine and cleaned it with smooth sand paper and wiped it off with a isopropyl alcohol. And the switch that does not work for the back window i put in an aluminum foil to have a full contact and it works. Just be careful when you open it up there are 4 or 5 little springs that will pop out.
Cheers

CELSI0R 04-16-20 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by blkstealthpaid4 (Post 10781284)
My junkyard's window cancel button was sticking.smh.So I need a to try a 3rd switch.smh

Clean the contacts before getting another switch.. Don't throw more parts at it yet.

Are your symptoms the same as stoney's? I would also test your window motor, in case it isn't the switch.

blkstealthpaid4 04-17-20 05:23 AM

The same exact symptoms.I already opened and tried re-soldering some contact points on the master switch.The second junkyard switch had the window lock button not either staying down or up.3 rd switch is on its way.Upon arrival, I will pb blaster the regulator while changing .We will see when it arrives.


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