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oh man thats tough, as much as i love the LS, the AMG package on a '03+ S-class beats the LS in the looks department. Plus Benz's are always winners with the chicks no matter how old. I guess i'll take the benz if i can get the 7year/100,000 FULL warranty.


wow, i wish i was faced with a decison like that :D

any chick you get because of your car is a skank. period. you will pay for each year of the starmark warranty over the 1 year they give you complimentary. not sure about the 100000 mile part. and only a dealer will give you the starmark. you would be surprised how many used benzes on dealer lots DONT have the starmark.the s class is better looking than any LS because the LS styling is clearly derivative of the s. the LS is also far more reliable but the s500 is quicker and faster but comes with less equipment as standard. the amg body kit is very nice and the wheels are the bomb but you still dont get as much stuff interior wise. the s class nav screen is smaller and the cd changer is IN THE TRUNK! the seats are very very comfortable however. the stereo blows compared to the mark levinson. youre also going to pay at least 75 [small town] but more likely over 100 dollars an hour for labor. if you want the benz you WILL NOT pay less or even the same as the same year UL LS 430. and the UL will have far more stuff in it. I know the benz has a big attraction but ownership will definetly open your eyes. and not positively. the UL LS 430 is a great car and a great deal. leave the skanks in the street man.

digital_d is right!
 

Digital_d is correct about the Mercedes quality compared to the Lexus'. I myself have owned 2, the service by the employees and management I loved. The cars i owned just had to many issue's. I owned the ML500 and the S430, I don't need to say the price's i paid for the cars they were both high cost. People are still going by perception when it comes to Mercedes and not the present state of the cars themselves. The Benz of the past was the top of the pile in all rich folks luxury car dreams. Today it's just not the same for Benz, also not for BMW and Jag. These 3 companies(BMW,Jag, and Benz) are quality wise not even as reliable as Acura, let alone Lexus. I have been saying for the past five years to my well to do friends and working class friends that a cars quality is better than its rep. Sometimes a reputation and a cars quality are not the same. A friend of mine just decided after going back and forth with me about why he liked Benz betterthat he has given up on Mercedes. This is after 3 Benz's went south on him (SL500,S500 and another S500) and the dealer keeps trying to keep him in the Benz. He stayed because like he told me, as a child he always wanted a Benz. In his day it was the ultimate status symbol, he is 41 and Lexus and Acura werent around until he was 25-26. This is not the case for all people who were born with Benz dreams, and Lexus' sales reflect that. All age groups by this car but alot chose Benz ,BMW and Jag first then come to Lexus. I left Lexus then came back because i missed the quality. At the end of the day If any item or food or drink is better, reputation won't last long, quality will still be the ultimate judge. I just hope Lexus doesn't get to comfy and forget what got it here. Lately my car has giving me some trouble and some sounds i have never heard. I will see about that when it gets worse, if it does. Until then Lexus has an edge on Mercedes for now,it's not the 80's any more welcome to the 2000's.:thumbup: :D GOD IS GOOD ALL THE TIME

Re: digital_d is right!
 

I agree guys, but i had just seen 2 S500's with the AMG kit, and DAMN my bells are still ringing. They have this stance they give out thats unbelievable.... but at the end of the day, lexus diffenitly takes the prize home.

i just bought a 2000LS400 with back seat massage. as we are in Hong Kong, i can understand the reasons for the back seat massage...a very high percentage of LS400/430 are driven by chauffeurs in asia.

Lets see some pics of the rear center console on the 2000!!!