LFAwful News: Lexus Not Focusing on New Supercar Anytime Soon
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LFAwful News: Lexus Not Focusing on New Supercar Anytime Soon
With Lexus pushing to have more of a sporty reputation, with luxury comfort an added benefit rather than vice versa, it only makes sense that a replacement for the LFA would be in the works, right? Wrong.
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Nothing we didn't already know. And the reality is that, as much as some fanboys want an LFA successor, where Lexus really has dropped the ball is in extending the spirit of the LFA or the lessons learned from building the LFA to other models. In terms of driving spirit, TMC basically gave us a huge tease with the GT86 platform and nothing since. I do think the quote is correct as far as where Lexus' focus/priorities should be, but it's already very, very late.
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Like most, I would love to see a true successor to the LFA. In fact, depending on the specification, I would probably order one sight unseen, based solely on how magnificent my current LFA is.
That said, I think we need to remember the level of bespoke engineering that went into the LFA project. Not just the car itself, but the assembly plant, tools, even staffing. And then the amount of testing and re-testing the LFA went through. This wasn't like McLaren who are pumping out a new car every few months based off the same tub and drivetrain. Even the McLaren F1 had the tail lights from a bus or TVR or something like that.
The LFA project, as a whole, is not easily repeatable and probably a massive distraction from normal manufacturing operations.
The way I see it, it would be like trying to get Michelangelo to create another David or Sistine Chapel ceiling every few years.
That said, I think we need to remember the level of bespoke engineering that went into the LFA project. Not just the car itself, but the assembly plant, tools, even staffing. And then the amount of testing and re-testing the LFA went through. This wasn't like McLaren who are pumping out a new car every few months based off the same tub and drivetrain. Even the McLaren F1 had the tail lights from a bus or TVR or something like that.
The LFA project, as a whole, is not easily repeatable and probably a massive distraction from normal manufacturing operations.
The way I see it, it would be like trying to get Michelangelo to create another David or Sistine Chapel ceiling every few years.
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Lexus may not necessarily need an LFA successor, but what they really need to keep that halo effect of the LFA alive is a true sports car in the regular lineup in the same price range as the AMG GT, the i8, the R8, the Carrera S and the GT-R, i.e. $100k-$160k. And no the LC is way too heavy to be considered a sports car and even Lexus avoids such wording in its PR.
An aluminum version of the LFA with a high-revving V8 a la the R8 V8 (which is priced at $116k) would be a good starting point to meet such performance and price targets IMHO.
An aluminum version of the LFA with a high-revving V8 a la the R8 V8 (which is priced at $116k) would be a good starting point to meet such performance and price targets IMHO.
Last edited by ydooby; 03-02-16 at 11:15 AM.
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They need to focus on building new engines, some of their models did not see an HP increase for 2 generations. All current F models have the same engine in them, which came from a car that is discontinued already. So, I'd rather see those millions go to the engine r&d project.
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They need to focus on building new engines, some of their models did not see an HP increase for 2 generations. All current F models have the same engine in them, which came from a car that is discontinued already. So, I'd rather see those millions go to the engine r&d project.
Really wish they had kept the V10 from the LFA and shoe-horned it into the new LC and GS-F. Of course I'm sure that engine cost as much as the whole GS-F to produce.
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It is "too exotic" for a mass produced car. The engine itself costs $156,000 retail. For that reason, it will always be an LFA engine. Lexus refused to outsource this engine to Lotus when they were trying to build the now defunct Espirit for the same reason.
Also, the V10 engine was not built for a 4000 something pounds car, but a lightweight supercar since it is very top end heavy in its power delivery where it trades the 9500 rpm revs through a short stroke/small cylindrical capacity for low end torque.
Also, the V10 engine was not built for a 4000 something pounds car, but a lightweight supercar since it is very top end heavy in its power delivery where it trades the 9500 rpm revs through a short stroke/small cylindrical capacity for low end torque.
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It is "too exotic" for a mass produced car. The engine itself costs $156,000 retail. For that reason, it will always be an LFA engine. Lexus refused to outsource this engine to Lotus when they were trying to build the now defunct Espirit for the same reason.
Also, the V10 engine was not built for a 4000 something pounds car, but a lightweight supercar since it is very top end heavy in its power delivery where it trades the 9500 rpm revs through a short stroke/small cylindrical capacity for low end torque.
Also, the V10 engine was not built for a 4000 something pounds car, but a lightweight supercar since it is very top end heavy in its power delivery where it trades the 9500 rpm revs through a short stroke/small cylindrical capacity for low end torque.
Very well said...
#12
It is "too exotic" for a mass produced car. The engine itself costs $156,000 retail. For that reason, it will always be an LFA engine. Lexus refused to outsource this engine to Lotus when they were trying to build the now defunct Espirit for the same reason.
Also, the V10 engine was not built for a 4000 something pounds car, but a lightweight supercar since it is very top end heavy in its power delivery where it trades the 9500 rpm revs through a short stroke/small cylindrical capacity for low end torque.
Also, the V10 engine was not built for a 4000 something pounds car, but a lightweight supercar since it is very top end heavy in its power delivery where it trades the 9500 rpm revs through a short stroke/small cylindrical capacity for low end torque.
Every LFA owner, whether they realize it or not, very likely has the best road car engine ever produced. And probably that ever will be produced.
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