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Old Aug 15, 2017 | 03:10 PM
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I agree, and after owning the LC (performance package) for about a month now. I will say that it is slow and somewhat painful at lower RPMs. At this point Im hard pressed to see how this car will be able to achieve anything close to the 4.4 sec that Lexus states. It seems to be closer to being just north of 5.0 sec.

I still enjoy driving the car and it is so much more than just its numbers, but a bit more low end oomph would be nice.
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Old Aug 15, 2017 | 03:27 PM
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With 10 gears, they can probably fix the lack of low end thrust with a different diff. Wouldn't be surprised to see a gearing change for the next model year.
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Old Aug 15, 2017 | 05:25 PM
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Hybrid is whole second slower in real life conditions than what Lexus claims
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Old Aug 15, 2017 | 08:26 PM
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Never had the chance to test the hybrid but I haven’t gotten the impression that horse power is a problem with the V8 (see a few other cars from its class for comparison below). The LC is not a high performance athlete. It’s a pleaser, made to make you feel good while driving it and it does that very successfully. It’s a big, futuristic and elegant looking coupe with an angry V8 that just feels bossy and sleek. You don’t even feel the urge to hurry while driving it but when needed, you can floor it and it will be more than sufficiently performant for any situation (as seen in the LC 500 vs Aston Martin video on youtube). If you want to excel on the race track, get a proper track car.
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Old Aug 16, 2017 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoppean
Never had the chance to test the hybrid but I haven’t gotten the impression that horse power is a problem with the V8 (see a few other cars from its class for comparison below). The LC is not a high performance athlete. It’s a pleaser, made to make you feel good while driving it and it does that very successfully. It’s a big, futuristic and elegant looking coupe with an angry V8 that just feels bossy and sleek. You don’t even feel the urge to hurry while driving it but when needed, you can floor it and it will be more than sufficiently performant for any situation (as seen in the LC 500 vs Aston Martin video on youtube). If you want to excel on the race track, get a proper track car.
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This, the car is awesome looking and beautiful inside and out. I get people giving me thumbs up every day. Then there are the other idiots in corvettes, Camaros etc that what to race off the light. IM very happy with mine and will hold onto this car for while. I'm not on a race track and don't need to show everyone who has the bigger *****..

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Old Aug 16, 2017 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Vladi
Hybrid is whole second slower in real life conditions than what Lexus claims
They are both ~0.5s slower 0-60 than Lexus claims, according to MT. 4.8s for the V8 and 5.3s for the hybrid. The hybrid actually stays pretty close to the V8 until 50 mph, then the V8 pulls away.
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Old Aug 16, 2017 | 05:34 PM
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They are both ~0.5s slower 0-60 than Lexus claims, according to MT. 4.8s for the V8 and 5.3s for the hybrid. The hybrid actually stays pretty close to the V8 until 50 mph, then the V8 pulls away.
There are some individual test done somewhere in eastern Europe and they did 5.8 but it could be due to Euro gearing. European Lexus hybrids were always geared for slower acceleration than US specs for some reason. For example LS600h and GS450h never did better than 6.5s in any of the mainstream magazines and road tests. So yeah technically LCh is a full second faster than GSh setup. But it gets even weirder with 200t engine which returns exact same acceleration numbers for IS, RC and GS while in RX its as fast as RX450h
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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Vladi
There are some individual test done somewhere in eastern Europe and they did 5.8 but it could be due to Euro gearing. European Lexus hybrids were always geared for slower acceleration than US specs for some reason. For example LS600h and GS450h never did better than 6.5s in any of the mainstream magazines and road tests. So yeah technically LCh is a full second faster than GSh setup. But it gets even weirder with 200t engine which returns exact same acceleration numbers for IS, RC and GS while in RX its as fast as RX450h
Maybe that's why in some publicity/comparison videos they pit an RCF, GSF and LC with each other? All other cars from rival makes in the same class will be faster. And even some from other classes, such as the Golf R and the 240i.

Lexus's seem to be 1-2 secs behind rivals consistently in performance. My experience is if one drives them in isolation one could enjoy without distraction all the Lexus attributes. But performance drives in convoy with others might begin to frustrate. Sacrificing reliability for power is a bad compromise. But the other way around is also a compromise.

Surely they are not that far behind in knowhow? If it's to be believed, the new Supra will have a BMW drivetrain.
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 02:55 AM
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0.6 second faster than ISF 6 years later.

Ok Lexus.
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Old Sep 8, 2017 | 09:06 PM
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0.6 second faster than ISF 6 years later.

Ok Lexus.
Sad when people don't put things into context. RCF is not necessarily faster than but on par/competitive with the m4.

LC is made to cruise, not to race. Its amazing what they've been able to achieve with a Luxury GT.
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Old Sep 9, 2017 | 02:51 PM
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It's not a sports car. That's what people need to understand.
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by G Star
Sad when people don't put things into context. RCF is not necessarily faster than but on par/competitive with the m4.

LC is made to cruise, not to race. Its amazing what they've been able to achieve with a Luxury GT.
I said ISF, unless they had RCF in 2011.
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TF109B
It's not a sports car. That's what people need to understand.
Right, but by all means let's use the same engine from other models and slap extra 20K on the price tag. That is something I'm more upset about than how it performed on the track.
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 05:31 PM
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Right, but by all means let's use the same engine from other models and slap extra 20K on the price tag. That is something I'm more upset about than how it performed on the track.
I'm guessing you've never sat in one, let alone own one. You'd see where that $20K delta went.
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