3nergiz3d

I believe the KWV3 spring rates are 11/8. Might be on the softer side for track duty. They also require you to cut your top hats as well to retain the OEM quietness and feel.

msgs350

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Yes, I've been told kw v3 is 11 kg front and 8 kg per rear. I have them on my car and they are quiet and smooth for sure at any ride height I've had them at, although its not recommended that you ride "slammed" with these, which i don't anyways. I don't track so can't comment on that.

3nergiz3d

Riding below their "drop" specifications voids your warranty. I'm not sure how they can tell though.

SCORP69

I have KW V3 FOR two years now. I have them set two clicks counter clock wise. about perfect for SoCal. I haven't tried any other settings except what is set from out of the box which was rough here in SoCal streets.

Kubbz

I recently bought the Greddy KW's, been running them for a month now. It just doesn't inspire confidence at highway passing speeds. Feels like the car is lifted and riding on tall skinny tires. In other words it will easily dart left or right with minimal input. Compared to my 2011 OEM suspension which felt much more planted at higher speed and stable ( 2 clicks in the front and 1.5 rear) The worse part is the steering feels overly touchy and not in a good way. Btw I have not done alignment as yet. My goal is slightly stiffer in the rear than OEM, other than that I was happy with the OEM set up. I plan to track maybe once a year. I use this car as my daily

FFM

lobuxracer

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Tracking with rates that low will allow the inside rear wheel to come off the ground. The OEM suspension does this on track, so a softer rate will only make it worse. Like most things suspension, they might feel good, but they won't provide mechanical grip when you really want it.

Jwconeil

lobuxracer

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To a point, this is true, however, lighter springs need less damping so wheel compliance is easier to maintain all else being equal (which it never actually is). The real problems are when people crank up compression damping to compensate for inadequate spring rates. It's a band-aid at best, and an utter disaster at worst. The other problem is, very few shocks have useful adjustments for damping control. The only adjustable shocks I've seen that produce consistent results from using the adjusters are Penske. Everything else is a guessing game and no two units are the same. While it may sound useful for owners to exchange configuration information, it is very unlikely adjusting two different shocks to the same settings will produce the same results (with the exception of Penske, and probably the higher end Ohlins). At least one of the CL vendors is providing shock dyno charts with a lower cost option so you can at least be confident the four units you are installing are reasonably matched. Without dyno charts, it's Forrest Gump's box of chocolates - you never know what you're going to get.

Even springs suffer this fate. Few spring brands actually measure out at their rated numbers, which is why Hypercoil is so popular in the racing community. You get the rate the box says you should. Once again, if you want an education in mechanical grip and performance, go here: http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets5.html. The guy is pretty opinionated, but he's forgot more about suspension than I'll likely ever know and won a few championships along the way.

samjones

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Bilstein does offer dyno graph sheets at extra cost

clarionguy

Who has put Swift springs 16/12k on kw v3?

I've had these coilovers on for a while and considering the upgrade. According to site vendors they say this is a common upgrade but yet have had anyone comment on the improvements

Patton6964

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I might have missed this, what size tires are you running? I'm leaning towards doing the bilsteins myself.

FIGS

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This is probably more a rear toe related felling than a shock setup as the rear multi-link changes quite a bit in bump. One reason we adjust the rear geometry.

FIGS

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This sounds more like the spring balance was off. We found the car way more stable with the change in the rear spring and damping configuration and the separation between the 2 targets different natural frequencies. With the rates so close together and perhaps the damping was off as well, the car will oscillate back and forth. This will make things worse as you factor in bump steer and geometry changes while driving and the way the shocks are handling the motion. The more sophisticated valving can compensate better but they may have been setup drastically differently as well or ride height and alignment might have bee different between the 2 setups. We just won 2 national racing series on BC DS series shock with an extensive setup so I think it's unfair to call them garbage based on the 2 data points.

If you are more spirited than the DS series might be a better fit. There are no 2 customers that have identical ride preferences, budgets and setup experience. That is why we are here to help.

samjones

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I was on the RCF set up wheels and tires (255/35/19 & 275/35/19)....since then I have switched to a square set up 255/35/19 with different wheels