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which is good, for any of you with the new TE37 ultra cant use pss has ridges line in them so will leak air, i couldnt use my PSS so i had to swapped to Toyo , good new they coming out with the ps4 there were 2 customers who had those problem prior to me they guy at 714 tires told me could be a problem and it did .
You got to wonder how long Michelin will keep making the PSS after full production of the new PS4S goes into effect?? Will this be a gradual tapering off, then they'll stop making them after a couple years??
Considering that Michelin still makes the Pilot Sport II, I don't think there is any reason to worry for a few years.
^^^ I agree with you, just curious as to what the price increase will be over the PSS? Unless they lower the price point of the PSS and the PS4S takes the pricing of the current PSS prices would be nice!
Anyone have some miles on a set of these yet? I have a set waiting to be installed, ended up being about $75 more than the PSS, but with a $70 rebate. Wondering if anyone has noticed a difference over the PSS.
Mine go on tomorrow, 245 in front and 255 in back on my '08 Wheels...probably wont be able to comment on them with any validity as its in the 40s/50s right now and i'm coming from worn MPSS
I know a few people who went to the michelin experience, and they put the 4S on their cars (specifically, a daily-driven R8 that does a lot of driving and track days - 55k miles for a 2015). After 2 months of 4S on the R8 doing plenty of driving and tracks, the tires have worn perhaps marginally but usually in the same amount of time, he would have gone through 3 sets of Pirelli P zeros, which is the same class as bridgestone S-04. I dont have first hand experience with these since I am still waiting for the sizes to come in for my porsche and other cars still have plenty of tires left, but what I heard from him is that while the dry traction is slightly improved, the biggest improvement is in the wet and in the improved tread life since it's designed to handle part time track duty. The price over the MPSS is also very small, around 5-7%. If these tires really last as long as they claim to be, they are a great bargain.
Interesting, thanks for the feedback. Tires are actually becoming the deciding factor for me while shopping wheels. The options for 19's is substantially greater than 20's. I commute with my vehicle so the thought of burning up the PS4's on the highway at roughly $1200 a shot was making 19's look a bit more appealing with new options like the Firestones. But if they seem to be wearing pretty well then the initial investment up front will pay off in the end
what I heard from him is that while the dry traction is slightly improved, the biggest improvement is in the wet and in the improved tread life since it's designed to handle part time track duty.
I didn't expect much change from dry traction in a street setting, but it's supposed to rain today, so I plan to take the car out and see how it behaves. I also had some pretty good life from the outgoing MPSS, so I wouldn't expect anything less from the PS4S. I'm glad they offered more size options, this time around, too.
Finally got my PS4S installed after waiting 3.5 weeks for TPMS sensors. Discount Tire still managed to not be able to get the TPMS programmed The tires however feel great, haven't put many miles on them yet. Went with 235/40/19 and 275/35/19 (I know not the most popular choice but I like sidewall).