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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by xSumDumGuy
Got the car back yesterday and i'll post up some videos later today or tomorrow. I tried taking some videos yesterday, but it was pretty windy and you can hear it so i'll have to take new ones.

Dynos are extremely confusing to me and i've got an email out to Paul to see if he can provide some information. I have the base line dynos then dynos for after headers/exhaust. It only gained 34-37whp from both headers and exhaust so i'm not sure how that could be. Temperature was the same in both dynos at a cool 103 degrees. Looking at Lou's prior dynos it looks like he gained about 18whp from the exhaust alone. Equal length headers appear to be gaining about same as unequal length at peak from his unequal/equal length dynos.

I'll post up the dynos later as well with the sound clips.

EDIT: I just noticed the temperatures when Lou ran his Dynos which were 70-80 degrees.
Can't wait for the videos. Where are you located in Arizona? I'm up in Scottsdale.
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by xSumDumGuy
Got the car back yesterday and i'll post up some videos later today or tomorrow. I tried taking some videos yesterday, but it was pretty windy and you can hear it so i'll have to take new ones.

Dynos are extremely confusing to me and i've got an email out to Paul to see if he can provide some information. I have the base line dynos then dynos for after headers/exhaust. It only gained 34-37whp from both headers and exhaust so i'm not sure how that could be. Temperature was the same in both dynos at a cool 103 degrees. Looking at Lou's prior dynos it looks like he gained about 18whp from the exhaust alone. Equal length headers appear to be gaining about same as unequal length at peak from his unequal/equal length dynos.

I'll post up the dynos later as well with the sound clips.

EDIT: I just noticed the temperatures when Lou ran his Dynos which were 70-80 degrees.
So your at 389-392whp?
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PearlIS
Can't wait for the videos. Where are you located in Arizona? I'm up in Scottsdale.
I'm in East Mesa.
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by redcrxsi
So your at 389-392whp?
That's what I was expecting. I'll just post the dyno now. I was extremely shocked, but I have no idea how they were dynoing. Numbers seem extremely low, even with the heat, so i'll have to check my throttle body and plugs.




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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 02:56 PM
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wow...

Maybe your novel tune causing issues? Probably good time to check your KCLV values too if you can get techstream setup.
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by redcrxsi
wow...

Maybe your novel tune causing issues? Probably good time to check your KCLV values too if you can get techstream setup.
I don't have any tune at the moment. Waiting for a custom tune option in the future.

I'll have to buy one of the cables then get tech stream as I don't have either at the moment. The car only has 23k miles so I can't imagine the plugs are all that bad, but other than the throttle body (I guess KCLV could be an issue) or plugs I can't think of why the numbers are so low.
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 03:05 PM
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Oh snap didn't know that he was running the Novel tune?

Yea like redcrxsi said above you need to check your KCLV numbers to see where they are below 3k & above 3k and see if the computer is trying to advance timing when you are WOT

Edit: Never mind on the tune saw your response above
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 03:10 PM
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Probably because 104 degree weather. Was there sufficient airflow in the front during dyno?
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jspecvtec
Probably because 104 degree weather. Was there sufficient airflow in the front during dyno?
I wasn't there at the time so that was my question out to Paul. I asked if the dyno guys had the hood opened and a fan going. For all I know it was closed, no fan, and the AC was going. One could hope, right?

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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 03:21 PM
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Yea Lou's run with his unequal length headers and exhaust made around 390ish but like you said the temps were about 20-30 degrees cooler....... so? You might not get accurate or close to par numbers until you dyno in like conditions?
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by xSumDumGuy
I don't have any tune at the moment. Waiting for a custom tune option in the future.

I'll have to buy one of the cables then get tech stream as I don't have either at the moment. The car only has 23k miles so I can't imagine the plugs are all that bad, but other than the throttle body (I

guess KCLV could be an issue) or plugs I can't think of why the numbers are so low.
My bad, got confused with IredSF!

With the stock tune, I'd be very surprised if the KCLV values were off
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 04:49 PM
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I wouldn't be dyno'ing at any shop that didn't have a climate controlled bay. But that's just me.
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 10:13 PM
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So here are a few clips I took tonight while driving. I can try to do some WOT videos later, but it gives you an idea of how it sounds. Idling is with closed valves at first then I open them. Rest of the clips are opened valves.


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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by xSumDumGuy
So here are a few clips I took tonight while driving. I can try to do some WOT videos later, but it gives you an idea of how it sounds. Idling is with closed valves at first then I open them. Rest of the clips are opened valves.

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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 08:11 AM
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