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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 01:06 PM
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Thanks RCB, you 'da man. Mine will be removed today for shipment as soon as Rafi gives us the word.

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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 01:37 PM
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Thanks for sharing! Subscribed so I can do this hopefully in the near future!!!
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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 07:06 PM
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Thanks great info going to do this very soon hopefully!!
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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 07:16 PM
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Im sure A LOT of people will be doing this soon......... RR Racing is doing some BIG THINGS !
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 09:43 AM
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Great write up thanks
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 09:50 AM
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Do any of you know if the ECM is interchangeable with other models? ie. LS460, LS600h, GS460? I'm assuming 08-14 all have the same plug configuration? Also, is our ECM programmed to work only with our key fob, or can you buy a spare ECM, have that sent off to flash, and plug that one in when you receive it?

Just trying to figure out if I should track down a spare ecu so I don't have any down time since my F is my main source of transportation.
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 11:08 AM
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Is RR Racing doing flash on the ECU please explain thanks
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 11:31 AM
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Is RR Racing doing flash on the ECU please explain thanks
Read the vendor section main post about the RR tune
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by iH8RICERZ
Do any of you know if the ECM is interchangeable with other models? ie. LS460, LS600h, GS460? I'm assuming 08-14 all have the same plug configuration? Also, is our ECM programmed to work only with our key fob, or can you buy a spare ECM, have that sent off to flash, and plug that one in when you receive it?

Just trying to figure out if I should track down a spare ecu so I don't have any down time since my F is my main source of transportation.
No,the F's ECM is not compatible with other models. Different engines, etc. AS far as the years you should try to stick with the same year you have.
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 09:29 PM
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Question thinking about picking up a spare ecu for modification and keep oem stock. Is there an issue with using another ecu in my car? ie anti theft etc?

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I'm pretty sure it's tied to the VIN. Good question.
There is a procedure for writing the VIN into the ECM, so that part is simple if you have the correct version of Techstream. The real question is, will the certification ECU allow you to swap between ECMs without issue. The certification ECU sends a certificate to the ECM to allow the engine to start. I don't know if the ECM and the certification ECU exchange credentials as part of that VIN writing process, but if they do, it would make swapping ECMs difficult.

The reality is, no one has tried this yet, so we're all waiting for someone to try and see what happens. I can afford down time. My Supra was forced into DD status while the F was in the shop getting body work repaired for a 6 week period.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 07:25 AM
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I was able to use multiple ECUs during the testing process. My first JDM test ECU did give a CEL for the VIN but it still allowed me to start and drive the car. Every ECU from there forward was issue free in that regard.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Rickna
No,the F's ECM is not compatible with other models. Different engines, etc. AS far as the years you should try to stick with the same year you have.
Have you compared them to know for sure? Part number alone won't tell you that. The difference of a part number will be what car it's flashed for. Rafi's software guy would be the person to ask. Based on their teaser image they've found an interface by going directly to the board.

On newer ECUs that are designed to be reflashed, like the ISF, you find your way past the encryption and pull the kernel. That's the "OS" that controls all functions required to do its job. The various parameter maps are packaged with it.

Since they've got the ISF kernel then it would require looking at connectors and opening up a few different ECUs and seeing if the hardware is the same.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 96300NAZ
Have you compared them to know for sure? Part number alone won't tell you that. The difference of a part number will be what car it's flashed for. Rafi's software guy would be the person to ask. Based on their teaser image they've found an interface by going directly to the board.

On newer ECUs that are designed to be reflashed, like the ISF, you find your way past the encryption and pull the kernel. That's the "OS" that controls all functions required to do its job. The various parameter maps are packaged with it.

Since they've got the ISF kernel then it would require looking at connectors and opening up a few different ECUs and seeing if the hardware is the same.
Apparently the ECM hardware between the IS F and the RC F is significantly different, so it would seem unlikely the unit will behave with different models. It's possible, but knowing Toyota, it could very easily be not possible.

Nothing would make me happier than being able to get an RC F engine and ECM to plug and play with my F...
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
Apparently the ECM hardware between the IS F and the RC F is significantly different, so it would seem unlikely the unit will behave with different models. It's possible, but knowing Toyota, it could very easily be not possible.

Nothing would make me happier than being able to get an RC F engine and ECM to plug and play with my F...
I meant between the 2IS or GS stuff. If the connections to the ECU are the same there's a possibility. Every ECU has unused pins. Whether because sensors or controls aren't available or if those pins weren't needed semantics.

So, look at another similar generation lexus ECU. Connectors the same? crack it open and see if the boards are the same. From there, see if whatever method they've devised to pull the kernel works and see if it will accept a flash or not. That will tell you what's interchangeable.
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Old Feb 14, 2016 | 09:07 AM
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Thanks for the write-up, it really helped. Those upper blue clips are a pain to remove, I definitely made one look less-pretty than it used to be!
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