Tein CS or Super Streets on IS-F
07-13-12, 04:39 AM
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But again, I want more comfort that performance. I can't lower the car and I will rarely track the car. (maybe 2-4 times a year if I'm lucky)
I agree most are saying they are the best and I'm sure they are a fine coilover. They are respected by just about every car club. However, that doesn't mean they are the best.. 
Classic case of this is the HKS manifold vs the Full race on supra forums. What a big upset that was when people saw that they spent 2-3x the money and ended up with worse performance and power than the old HKS manifold.
Are BC's china stuff? also 14k sounds really stiff!
Is it the springs on the F that make it so stiff? Maybe a new set of springs would fix my problem?
Classic case of this is the HKS manifold vs the Full race on supra forums. What a big upset that was when people saw that they spent 2-3x the money and ended up with worse performance and power than the old HKS manifold.
Are BC's china stuff? also 14k sounds really stiff!
Is it the springs on the F that make it so stiff? Maybe a new set of springs would fix my problem?
07-13-12, 08:03 AM
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Without knowing the motion ratios Lexus used, saying 14k "sounds really stiff" is uninformed at best. Besides, springs aren't what make the suspension feel stiff. Damper settings do more for stiffness than any spring. All the spring does is resist compression.
KW isn't best and we all know it. Penske, Moton, Bilstein, and Ohlins are the names you see at top of motorsports which is why FIGS is working on a Penske setup for the F.
Yes, the BC setup is Chinese. They also reportedly ride smoother than the OEM setup - probably because the damping is a little softer and complements the spring choice. They are the lowest cost aftermarket setup that people here have used and said it works for street.
KW isn't best and we all know it. Penske, Moton, Bilstein, and Ohlins are the names you see at top of motorsports which is why FIGS is working on a Penske setup for the F.
Yes, the BC setup is Chinese. They also reportedly ride smoother than the OEM setup - probably because the damping is a little softer and complements the spring choice. They are the lowest cost aftermarket setup that people here have used and said it works for street.
07-13-12, 10:44 AM
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Without knowing the motion ratios Lexus used, saying 14k "sounds really stiff" is uninformed at best. Besides, springs aren't what make the suspension feel stiff. Damper settings do more for stiffness than any spring. All the spring does is resist compression.
KW isn't best and we all know it. Penske, Moton, Bilstein, and Ohlins are the names you see at top of motorsports which is why FIGS is working on a Penske setup for the F.
Yes, the BC setup is Chinese. They also reportedly ride smoother than the OEM setup - probably because the damping is a little softer and complements the spring choice. They are the lowest cost aftermarket setup that people here have used and said it works for street.
KW isn't best and we all know it. Penske, Moton, Bilstein, and Ohlins are the names you see at top of motorsports which is why FIGS is working on a Penske setup for the F.
Yes, the BC setup is Chinese. They also reportedly ride smoother than the OEM setup - probably because the damping is a little softer and complements the spring choice. They are the lowest cost aftermarket setup that people here have used and said it works for street.
07-13-12, 12:36 PM
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KW are the best one we have right now for the ISF. I did not say its the best coilovers out there. I have Ohlins on my Bike. So I know how good they are. If they have it available I would definitely get it for the F. KW is pretty much the only one worth getting for the ISF right now. I would never put Tein coils again on any of my car.
07-15-12, 12:17 PM
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But again, I want more comfort that performance. I can't lower the car and I will rarely track the car. (maybe 2-4 times a year if I'm lucky)
I agree most are saying they are the best and I'm sure they are a fine coilover. They are respected by just about every car club. However, that doesn't mean they are the best..
Classic case of this is the HKS manifold vs the Full race on supra forums. What a big upset that was when people saw that they spent 2-3x the money and ended up with worse performance and power than the old HKS manifold.
Are BC's china stuff? also 14k sounds really stiff!
Is it the springs on the F that make it so stiff? Maybe a new set of springs would fix my problem?
I agree most are saying they are the best and I'm sure they are a fine coilover. They are respected by just about every car club. However, that doesn't mean they are the best..
Classic case of this is the HKS manifold vs the Full race on supra forums. What a big upset that was when people saw that they spent 2-3x the money and ended up with worse performance and power than the old HKS manifold.
Are BC's china stuff? also 14k sounds really stiff!
Is it the springs on the F that make it so stiff? Maybe a new set of springs would fix my problem?
If you want a kit that is a bit less expensive I would go with a custom set iof the BC Racing coilovers through us, with the Swift springs. We can do a custom sprignrate setup for you on these to tailor the kit to your needs , and with the Swift spring the BC's ride really well. Better than you probably would imagine.
I think these are the best thing going next to the KW's right now. They also have the advantage of easier setup and install, as they come with both front and rear top plates. Also, they adjust with one **** for rebound damping instead of the Kw's separate rebound and compression, because if you aren't sure how to set up the KW's you won't get the full value out of them. For some people a single adjustment **** is ideal.
Shoot us a PM and we can help
Without knowing the motion ratios Lexus used, saying 14k "sounds really stiff" is uninformed at best. Besides, springs aren't what make the suspension feel stiff. Damper settings do more for stiffness than any spring. All the spring does is resist compression.
KW isn't best and we all know it. Penske, Moton, Bilstein, and Ohlins are the names you see at top of motorsports which is why FIGS is working on a Penske setup for the F.
Yes, the BC setup is Chinese. They also reportedly ride smoother than the OEM setup - probably because the damping is a little softer and complements the spring choice. They are the lowest cost aftermarket setup that people here have used and said it works for street.
KW isn't best and we all know it. Penske, Moton, Bilstein, and Ohlins are the names you see at top of motorsports which is why FIGS is working on a Penske setup for the F.
Yes, the BC setup is Chinese. They also reportedly ride smoother than the OEM setup - probably because the damping is a little softer and complements the spring choice. They are the lowest cost aftermarket setup that people here have used and said it works for street.
No actually they are not, they are manufactured in Taiwan
07-15-12, 01:11 PM
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And there's a big quality difference between Taiwanese and Chinese parts? Me thinks no....
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