How would our cars run on E-85?
07-23-09, 01:15 AM
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How would our cars run on E-85?
Just wondering if this would work. I know the ECU is great and all,but could it adapt enough to use E85? Anyone try a slight mixture yet?
07-23-09, 06:29 AM
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i would highly recommend against this due to the fact that it will eat apart the motor since the cylinders are not coated for this....it will actually eat the motor from the inside out.
07-23-09, 07:58 AM
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WTF? Cylinder walls not coated? Where did you hear that?
The #1 problem is the fuel system isn't configured to put enough fuel into the engine. It will run FAR too lean. Stoichiometric for alcohol is between 6 and 8:1. Gasoline is 14.7:1. HUGE gap there and far beyond the +/-20% Toyota's ECM can adjust.
The #1 problem is the fuel system isn't configured to put enough fuel into the engine. It will run FAR too lean. Stoichiometric for alcohol is between 6 and 8:1. Gasoline is 14.7:1. HUGE gap there and far beyond the +/-20% Toyota's ECM can adjust.
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07-23-09, 12:47 PM
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WTF? Cylinder walls not coated? Where did you hear that?
The #1 problem is the fuel system isn't configured to put enough fuel into the engine. It will run FAR too lean. Stoichiometric for alcohol is between 6 and 8:1. Gasoline is 14.7:1. HUGE gap there and far beyond the +/-20% Toyota's ECM can adjust.
The #1 problem is the fuel system isn't configured to put enough fuel into the engine. It will run FAR too lean. Stoichiometric for alcohol is between 6 and 8:1. Gasoline is 14.7:1. HUGE gap there and far beyond the +/-20% Toyota's ECM can adjust.
Btw guys im just looking at different fuel sources and was wondering about E85 and our cars capability to compensate for it. May tuners in south Florida have been making great numbers with the fuel.
07-23-09, 12:54 PM
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e-85 is not as dangerous to an engine and fuel system as people make it out to be. So many rumors flying around out there. It will eat up natural rubbers, but that issue is mainly with older cars. In order to run it, you would need to be able to add at least another 20% fuel, which the oem ecu will mostly likely not be able to do on it's own. Even if the computer could trim it enough, would mostly run into a problem with the injectors and fuel pump maxing out due to the extra fuel requirement. Cold weather starts are not as nice either.
You don't want to get any on your hands either. Smells like someone took a squat in your hand.
You don't want to get any on your hands either. Smells like someone took a squat in your hand.
07-23-09, 02:55 PM
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It's not just a matter of can the engine burn it, it is rather or not the fuel will eat up your O-rings, rubber seals, fuel lines, etc. A car has to specifically designed to manage and burn this fuel.
07-23-09, 03:04 PM
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Buy a honda civic if you want to get better gas milage or save some money on fuel. Why anyone would want to run anything but the highest octane most expensive fuel in a sports car is beyond me. Put some high octane in there and burn them damn tires up, that's what the car is made for. If not, trade it!!
07-23-09, 03:59 PM
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Buy a honda civic if you want to get better gas milage or save some money on fuel. Why anyone would want to run anything but the highest octane most expensive fuel in a sports car is beyond me. Put some high octane in there and burn them damn tires up, that's what the car is made for. If not, trade it!!
07-23-09, 04:17 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85
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