IS-F vs. Corvette
09-18-07, 08:11 PM
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I have never driven a C6 Corvette, but I sure have sat inside (and also a Viper as well). It has decent quality, fit, finish and refinement, but definitely in no way up to par with BMW, Porsche, Audi or Lexus in terms of material and build quality.
It is easy to understand how they keep the cost of production down and make it a great bang for the buck.
p.s. It is a fact, the radio in the Dodge Viper was exactly the same found in my friend's 2001 Dodge Caravan.
It is easy to understand how they keep the cost of production down and make it a great bang for the buck.
p.s. It is a fact, the radio in the Dodge Viper was exactly the same found in my friend's 2001 Dodge Caravan.
You know what it is? Until you develop a working knowledge of these cars (day in and day out), you can never really truly KNOW them. When Stefan said he wanted a Vette, I laughed like he said he wanted a Yugo. But after driving / riding in it a few times, I developed a whole new level of respect for the Corvette (and other American Sports cars). It handles like its on rails, rides well (with conventional 20" tires instead of standard 17/18" runflats), and as you said has tons of creature comforts (climate control, digital cruise, yadda yadda). Also he's never had a reliability issue, and he drives the car like he stole it from someone who stole it!!!! lol
Perhaps its aerodynamics, or gearing or just the engineering, I dunno.
Perhaps its aerodynamics, or gearing or just the engineering, I dunno.
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09-18-07, 09:11 PM
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Guys, corvette's used to be cheesy and kind of American style inside. However, like the guy said above "have you sat in one lately". They are super nice. I think the build quality is there also. There are lots of vettes here in texas and I know a lot of people that have them. None of them have had any more or less problems than what I read about with our lexus.
The vette on a track/1/4 mile and all around is an amazing car. I am not even talking z06 either. The new vette will be 437hp, and will continue to brake better, accelerate better, and handle better then than any lexus, besides the lfa. They are truly a good buy in my opinion. You have almost super car handling and speed for under 60k.
The main problem I see with the vette is that EVERYONE (at least down here) has one. Also, it always seems like the type of people (i know this doesn't go for all so don't flame me) are those dudes that have some sort of tribal arm band tattoo that thinks because they watch UFC they are an pro fighter. Or you have other dudes that wear like the corvette jackets with the checker stripes on it, and always sport their "vette" baseball hats.
Lexus IS and I am sure ISF owners are all over the place, which is cool to me. we have young, old, nerds, stuckup, not stuckup, fanboy, etc. I like that about the Lexus.
I still don't know what car I would get for 55-60k. Not the vette, just based on how many, not the is-f based on looks. I guess I'd probably get an rs4. Wicked engine, decent handling and for some reason I think they look cool. The new rs4 will be 450hp, but I think will be closer to 65k
The vette on a track/1/4 mile and all around is an amazing car. I am not even talking z06 either. The new vette will be 437hp, and will continue to brake better, accelerate better, and handle better then than any lexus, besides the lfa. They are truly a good buy in my opinion. You have almost super car handling and speed for under 60k.
The main problem I see with the vette is that EVERYONE (at least down here) has one. Also, it always seems like the type of people (i know this doesn't go for all so don't flame me) are those dudes that have some sort of tribal arm band tattoo that thinks because they watch UFC they are an pro fighter. Or you have other dudes that wear like the corvette jackets with the checker stripes on it, and always sport their "vette" baseball hats.
Lexus IS and I am sure ISF owners are all over the place, which is cool to me. we have young, old, nerds, stuckup, not stuckup, fanboy, etc. I like that about the Lexus.
I still don't know what car I would get for 55-60k. Not the vette, just based on how many, not the is-f based on looks. I guess I'd probably get an rs4. Wicked engine, decent handling and for some reason I think they look cool. The new rs4 will be 450hp, but I think will be closer to 65k
09-18-07, 10:07 PM
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silly comparison
The 08 vette has upgraded interior, which is a more important add than a lil more horsepower. I will be in the market for something new this winter-spring. The z06 is raw, and if your wife will be driving it, than it could be dangerous. The IS-F should be compared to the cts-v, rs4, c63, m3. After driving a z06, I fell in love, but its not all about speed.
The is-f is deep on my list, and I am on the list to look first in Lexington.
The is-f is deep on my list, and I am on the list to look first in Lexington.
09-20-07, 10:55 AM
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Let me get the flame suit out....ok got it. What about a GTO? It has the same 400-400 LS2 motor as the C6 vette. Yes I know some don't like the looks and its heavy (3800lbs or so) but at 27-30K new (if you can find one) you can dump the rest of the money in to mods, that 10-15K you save can get you around 550-600+ RWHP quite fun for a weekend car.
09-20-07, 07:11 PM
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Let me get the flame suit out....ok got it. What about a GTO? It has the same 400-400 LS2 motor as the C6 vette. Yes I know some don't like the looks and its heavy (3800lbs or so) but at 27-30K new (if you can find one) you can dump the rest of the money in to mods, that 10-15K you save can get you around 550-600+ RWHP quite fun for a weekend car.
Hell u could have an AWD Holden MOrano!!
09-20-07, 07:26 PM
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As much as the IS-F will be a very cool sedan, it can never be what the Corvette is, even if you consider only mechanical performance. Add to this the iconic status of the Corvette, and it's an easy choice if you are interested in a very fun drive and don't have a need to provide space for more than one passenger.
I just would not expect my Corvette to be trouble-free. That too is unrealistic, and my sources are not anecdotal, they're owners and former owners. The honest truth is, if you want inexpensive, and real go-fast, you should be looking at a Viper (assuming you can fit in it comfortably.) There really isn't anything out there as competent for under $100k.
I just would not expect my Corvette to be trouble-free. That too is unrealistic, and my sources are not anecdotal, they're owners and former owners. The honest truth is, if you want inexpensive, and real go-fast, you should be looking at a Viper (assuming you can fit in it comfortably.) There really isn't anything out there as competent for under $100k.
I just figure for 45k-50k, it's tough to beat a Corvette. I want a Sunday missile and it seems the Vette is the best bang for the buck. The only thing I dislike about the Vette is you see them at every stoplight. That being said, is there really anything else that can compete with the corvette in performance and price in stock form? Nothing really comes to mind.
@ least in Texas & New Mexico, I see WAY MORE 2nd gen IS cars than I do corvettes..... and I mean way more. Our cars are EVERYWHERE here.
You know what it is? Until you develop a working knowledge of these cars (day in and day out), you can never really truly KNOW them. When Stefan said he wanted a Vette, I laughed like he said he wanted a Yugo. But after driving / riding in it a few times, I developed a whole new level of respect for the Corvette (and other American Sports cars). It handles like its on rails, rides well (with conventional 20" tires instead of standard 17/18" runflats), and as you said has tons of creature comforts (climate control, digital cruise, yadda yadda). Also he's never had a reliability issue, and he drives the car like he stole it from someone who stole it!!!! lol
I always thought a 300hp or 350hp car is a 300hp or 350hp car, but thats not the case. These purpose built sports cars just run circles around luxury cars, no matter how much HP. Its such an intangible quality that can not be summed up with stats are HP / TQ figures. When the cars get on the road, one car just simply leaves the other (in the hands of a capable driver). Perhaps its aerodynamics, or gearing or just the engineering, I dunno.
I always thought a 300hp or 350hp car is a 300hp or 350hp car, but thats not the case. These purpose built sports cars just run circles around luxury cars, no matter how much HP. Its such an intangible quality that can not be summed up with stats are HP / TQ figures. When the cars get on the road, one car just simply leaves the other (in the hands of a capable driver). Perhaps its aerodynamics, or gearing or just the engineering, I dunno.
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09-20-07, 07:29 PM
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Let me get the flame suit out....ok got it. What about a GTO? It has the same 400-400 LS2 motor as the C6 vette. Yes I know some don't like the looks and its heavy (3800lbs or so) but at 27-30K new (if you can find one) you can dump the rest of the money in to mods, that 10-15K you save can get you around 550-600+ RWHP quite fun for a weekend car.
for the money.
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I have never driven a C6 Corvette, but I sure have sat inside (and also a Viper as well). It has decent quality, fit, finish and refinement, but definitely in no way up to par with BMW, Porsche, Audi or Lexus in terms of material and build quality.
It is easy to understand how they keep the cost of production down and make it a great bang for the buck.
p.s. It is a fact, the radio in the Dodge Viper was exactly the same found in my friend's 2001 Dodge Caravan.
It is easy to understand how they keep the cost of production down and make it a great bang for the buck.
p.s. It is a fact, the radio in the Dodge Viper was exactly the same found in my friend's 2001 Dodge Caravan.
I like that it is quieter, but the corvette is not meant to be quiet. I like the ventilated seats to
.1. And as far as the viper radio being in the caravan, Lexus does that to doesn't it with Toyota?
2. The toyota prius have push button start/stop to. So does the nissan altima and others.
3. The toyota prius also has the little button to lock the car from the outside "smart key" so you don't need to use the remote.
4. The toyota prius also has the back up camera like the lex.
5. Doesn't toyota also use the 6 disc changer in the dash like the IS?
I didn't buy the IS350 b/cuz it was "luxurious", I bought it b/cuz it looked different than other cars. It looked aggressive, and it was pretty fast.
Oh, and I liked the little wood trim
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09-20-07, 08:02 PM
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Its like comparing apples and oranges. I doubt the IS-F will hang with the C6 stock. My mother (age 50) Drives a 1999 corvette and sometimes even my 1977 corvette.. I say get what the Lady wants and call it a day!
It all depends on what your intending to do with the car.. If its a Daily driver or a family car ill say get the IS-F but youll have to figure out what you want.
It all depends on what your intending to do with the car.. If its a Daily driver or a family car ill say get the IS-F but youll have to figure out what you want.
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. That just means more money to dump in to the Goat. That would be a monster car.
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Let me get the flame suit out....ok got it. What about a GTO? It has the same 400-400 LS2 motor as the C6 vette. Yes I know some don't like the looks and its heavy (3800lbs or so) but at 27-30K new (if you can find one) you can dump the rest of the money in to mods, that 10-15K you save can get you around 550-600+ RWHP quite fun for a weekend car.
Its funny you mention the GTO because I had this guy go ON and ON about how I should get a GTO over a Viper, Vette, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Lear Jet, etc because its such a performance bargain out of the box! His dedication was a bit misguided, but he did have a point about it having that LS2 motor and being so inexpensive.
Do you have a tub kit on your GTO? I think its downright stupid that car has such narrow rear tires (255section width stock? 245?)