Alignment help - Rear oversteer after lowering?
I am curious why the term dangerous would be used for HPDE. I have run with multiple schools and it was some of the safest place to learn from some very smart people. They have carefully selected run groups, based on ability. Also an instructor rides with you the whole time. No shenanigans have been allowed and the whole thing has been run extremely safe, both on track and off. Not to say that it was run on a closed course, with plenty of run off should anything happen.
HPDE is a dangerous place to learn at and beyond the limit car control ......... as the risks are much higher with the elevated speeds.
HPDE's are normally relatively safe, and they are a great place to learn driving techniques. However, if the goal is to specifically exceed the limit of grip to learn how to recover from exceeding those limits an HPDE event with it's higher speeds, walls/barriers, and other vehicles on track at the same time is inherently more risky than an event like autocross where you are often the only car on course or one of only 2, speeds are lower, and the primary object you may make contact with is an orange rubber cone.
Last edited by mavisky; Oct 3, 2025 at 11:47 AM.
That's why from my experience, they run skid pads and gradually introduce you to speed and skill. No Ego. On top of in class instruction and car control.
From my post:
HPDE is a dangerous place to learn at and beyond the limit car control ......... as the risks are much higher with the elevated speeds.
HPDE's are normally relatively safe, and they are a great place to learn driving techniques. However, if the goal is to specifically exceed the limit of grip to learn how to recover from exceeding those limits an HPDE event with it's higher speeds, walls/barriers, and other vehicles on track at the same time is inherently more risky than an event like autocross where you are often the only car on course or one of only 2, speeds are lower, and the primary object you may make contact with is an orange rubber cone.
HPDE is a dangerous place to learn at and beyond the limit car control ......... as the risks are much higher with the elevated speeds.
HPDE's are normally relatively safe, and they are a great place to learn driving techniques. However, if the goal is to specifically exceed the limit of grip to learn how to recover from exceeding those limits an HPDE event with it's higher speeds, walls/barriers, and other vehicles on track at the same time is inherently more risky than an event like autocross where you are often the only car on course or one of only 2, speeds are lower, and the primary object you may make contact with is an orange rubber cone.
Im not aware of any of the track day events in our area that do skid pads as part of a track day session unless you are specifically paying for some sort of specialty novice course/event.
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