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Old Dec 12, 2019 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Moisture
Well, In my Mazda 6, obviously here it is specified for 0w20, but everywhere else in the world, anywhere up to 10W50 is perfectly OK to use. There isn't an engine in the world which will cause you issues running 5W40 oil. Manufacturers would need to design impossibly thin engine clearances in that case.

I use 5W40 year round here in Canada but I park in a garage. 0w20 would be helpful if you park outside in -20f, but if you are garage stored, 5W30/40 is perfectly OK to use even in the coldest of winters, as I have been doing for many years.
I think you need to be very careful and do research before going against current manufacturer oil recommendations.
Jaguar / Landrover originally recommended 5w20 for their 5L V8 when it came out around 2010. A few years later that recommendation changed to 0w20 (and continues today, worldwide), due to engine damage on start up (timing chain, guides, and tensioners).
Very small oil passages. 5w40 would destroy that engine in no time.
Old Dec 12, 2019 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kj07xk
I think you need to be very careful and do research before going against current manufacturer oil recommendations.
Jaguar / Landrover originally recommended 5w20 for their 5L V8 when it came out around 2010. A few years later that recommendation changed to 0w20 (and continues today, worldwide), due to engine damage on start up (timing chain, guides, and tensioners).
Very small oil passages. 5w40 would destroy that engine in no time.
Complete nonsense. That recommendation only changes because CAFE mandated this change by offering generous tax rebates which no manufacturer would possibly refuse.

Like i've mentioned before, 5w40 isn't a thick oil, and the passages on these engines are nowehere near as thin as you think. I've been doing this for long enough (using even thicker than 5w40 at times, with a number of different vehicles)
Old Dec 12, 2019 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Moisture
Complete nonsense. That recommendation only changes because CAFE mandated this change by offering generous tax rebates which no manufacturer would possibly refuse.

Like i've mentioned before, 5w40 isn't a thick oil, and the passages on these engines are nowehere near as thin as you think. I've been doing this for long enough (using even thicker than 5w40 at times, with a number of different vehicles)
Lexus owner's manual says 5w20 can be use if 0w20 is not available but the next oil change should be back to 0w20. I have enough 0w20 in my storage for at least next 4 oil changes so I will stay on what I have and probably will stay on it until the life of my car. It's not broken so I won't fix it.

Off topic but I'm loving the new PPE headers and Ark Exhaust system! Drone is gradually saying bye bye and turning into a mean growl.
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It's not broken so (I) won't fix it.

Off topic but I'm loving the new PPE headers and Ark Exhaust system! Drone is gradually saying bye bye and turning into a mean growl.
And when it does break? you wont know realize until it's too late.

I am hoping you got an ECU tune which corresponds with your headers.. But assuming you probably didn't. Which is bad for a whole host of reasons.
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Owner manual recommends 5W-30 in my region. It even shows 10W-30, 15W-40, and 20W-50 in the temperature range chart.
Old Dec 13, 2019 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Moisture
And when it does break? you wont know realize until it's too late.

I am hoping you got an ECU tune which corresponds with your headers.. But assuming you probably didn't. Which is bad for a whole host of reasons.
I may sound stupid but not that stupid. When it breaks which everything in this world does, then I will deal with it. At least I know I'm not scared to do what I want and will never regret anything I do for fun.

Enjoy your boring NX300.



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Originally Posted by Matroushi
Owner manual recommends 5W-30 in my region. It even shows 10W-30, 15W-40, and 20W-50 in the temperature range chart.
Exactly! Where are you from again?
Old Dec 13, 2019 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Matroushi
Owner manual recommends 5W-30 in my region. It even shows 10W-30, 15W-40, and 20W-50 in the temperature range chart.
Which engine do you have? Can you show a picture of the chart please?
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Originally Posted by s3v3n
I may sound stupid but not that stupid. When it breaks which everything in this world does, then I will deal with it. At least I know I'm not scared to do what I want and will never regret anything I do for fun.

Enjoy your boring NX300.
No, you sound pretty stupid. My boring NX300 has nothing to do with the fact that you should never go catless without getting an ECU tune. The ecu is going to be confused, your air fuel ratios are WAY off, and you'll only be making about half the level of power you can be if you get a tune so that the ECU is no longer confused.

The NX300 isn't my daily driver, it's one of the many family cars...
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Originally Posted by Moisture
No, you sound pretty stupid. My boring NX300 has nothing to do with the fact that you should never go catless without getting an ECU tune. The ecu is going to be confused, your air fuel ratios are WAY off, and you'll only be making about half the level of power you can be if you get a tune so that the ECU is no longer confused.

The NX300 isn't my daily driver, it's one of the many family cars...
ROFL are you mad? Know how to read? Sorry if I offended you

Planning on putting 5w40 on a 0w20 recommended vehicle is far the top most stupid idea I ever heard. I'm very sorry for your boring NX300.


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Old Dec 13, 2019 | 09:54 AM
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I'm considering switching to a thicker oil, maybe 5w-30? Got the new RR BBK and under hard deceleration, the oil in the oilpan sloshes foward, letting the oil pickup gasp a gulp of air for less then a second, giving me a low oil pressure warning for maybe .5 of a second. Hoping the thicker oil reduces slosh.
Old Dec 13, 2019 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Pittsy
I'm considering switching to a thicker oil, maybe 5w-30? Got the new RR BBK and under hard deceleration, the oil in the oilpan sloshes foward, letting the oil pickup gasp a gulp of air for less then a second, giving me a low oil pressure warning for maybe .5 of a second. Hoping the thicker oil reduces slosh.
Using thicker oil has its own benefits, but what you describe sounds like a different issue.. what is RR BBK?and why did you install a new oil pan?
Old Dec 13, 2019 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Moisture
you should never go catless without getting an ECU tune. The ecu is going to be confused, your air fuel ratios are WAY off, and you'll only be making about half the level of power you can be if you get a tune so that the ECU is no longer confused.
Air fuel ratio is measured by O2 sensor 1, which is pre-cat. The only thing the car will know is that there is poor catalyst efficiency.
Old Dec 13, 2019 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by s3v3n
Exactly! Where are you from again?
Middle East (United Arab Emirates specifically, GCC spec)

Originally Posted by Moisture
Which engine do you have? Can you show a picture of the chart please?
3.5L V6


Old Dec 13, 2019 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Matroushi
Middle East (United Arab Emirates specifically, GCC spec)



3.5L V6

Same as my instruction manual



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