Dealer loaner felt faster, more responsive 2016 vs 2017
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Driver School Candidate
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Dealer loaner felt faster, more responsive 2016 vs 2017
Part of my dealer experience was to provide a loaner while my car was in for service, sweet. They provided a 2016, Non-Fsport IS300 AWD, I was surprised in comparison to my 2017 F-sport IS300. The loaner with almost twice the mileage felt quicker and more responsive. After service my car felt more tame, more refined which isn't a bad thing but my Fsport didn't feel higher in performance after the comparison. I could be wrong, might totally be in my head. Is there something I should know?
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drives cars
It could be you're not used to the throttle mapping. I always find that cars I'm not used to feel quicker than they actually are. (I had an NX 300 loaner not long ago, and thought it felt pretty peppy, even though I know it's slower than my 2016 IS 300 AWD.)
Though I do wonder if the refresh has any effect on the throttle mapping.
Though I do wonder if the refresh has any effect on the throttle mapping.
#3
Racer
You're most likely feeling the difference in ECU adaptation. The ECU will adapt and tune certain aspects of the car according to the driver's driving style. It's a loaner car with high miles. People aren't usually that nice to cars that aren't theirs, so I'm sure it's had a much rougher, more abused life than your personal car.
Your personal car is likely treated more gently and as a result, the ECU adapts to this style of driving giving you the more tame and refined feeling you're noticing. F-Sport has the advantage of the Adaptive Variable Suspension if I'm not mistaken. It's always working and adapting, even if you're not in S+ mode so your car is able to adjust more than the standard non F-Sport car.
Your personal car is likely treated more gently and as a result, the ECU adapts to this style of driving giving you the more tame and refined feeling you're noticing. F-Sport has the advantage of the Adaptive Variable Suspension if I'm not mistaken. It's always working and adapting, even if you're not in S+ mode so your car is able to adjust more than the standard non F-Sport car.
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Lexus Test Driver
Part of my dealer experience was to provide a loaner while my car was in for service, sweet. They provided a 2016, Non-Fsport IS300 AWD, I was surprised in comparison to my 2017 F-sport IS300. The loaner with almost twice the mileage felt quicker and more responsive. After service my car felt more tame, more refined which isn't a bad thing but my Fsport didn't feel higher in performance after the comparison. I could be wrong, might totally be in my head. Is there something I should know?
vs.
Your 2017 Fsport had a 8-speed.
The pickup of the 6 speed is slightly quicker than the 8 speed. We have to 8 speed for fuel efficient nowadays.
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Yeah the AWD has 6 speed where as the RWD has 8 speed.
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Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by HOMER350
Yeah the AWD has 6 speed where as the RWD has 8 speed.
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(right !?!? Or is the lexus site wrong...than just shoot me my bad . )
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Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by HOMER350
He said he has an IS300 Fsport (not the 200T) and loaner was IS300 AWD. I take it his IS300 is therefore not AWD. They make both AWD and RWD for the IS300 each with transmission as specified above.
(right !?!? Or is the lexus site wrong...than just shoot me my bad . )
(right !?!? Or is the lexus site wrong...than just shoot me my bad . )
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Lexus Champion
You're most likely feeling the difference in ECU adaptation. The ECU will adapt and tune certain aspects of the car according to the driver's driving style. It's a loaner car with high miles. People aren't usually that nice to cars that aren't theirs, so I'm sure it's had a much rougher, more abused life than your personal car.
Your personal car is likely treated more gently and as a result, the ECU adapts to this style of driving giving you the more tame and refined feeling you're noticing. F-Sport has the advantage of the Adaptive Variable Suspension if I'm not mistaken. It's always working and adapting, even if you're not in S+ mode so your car is able to adjust more than the standard non F-Sport car.
Your personal car is likely treated more gently and as a result, the ECU adapts to this style of driving giving you the more tame and refined feeling you're noticing. F-Sport has the advantage of the Adaptive Variable Suspension if I'm not mistaken. It's always working and adapting, even if you're not in S+ mode so your car is able to adjust more than the standard non F-Sport car.
So the OP's 2017 IS300 AWD and the loaner 2016 IS300 AWD F Sport both have the V6 and 6 speed.
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He never actually said his 2017 was AWD though. So if he has the 2017 RWD then it's a turbo 4, and the 2016 IS300 AWD loaner would be the V6. That could account for the difference in performance he's feeling.