Forget BMW, it's the Lexus of it's segment !
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Forget BMW, it's the Lexus of it's segment !
The Mazda3 has always been considered the "BMW" of it's segment as it typically handles the best and is the most fun to drive. Since the 3IS has beat out the BMW and is the current "Ultimate Driving Machine", guess you could say the Mazda3 is now the "Lexus" of it's segment - even commanding a price in the low 30's when greatly equipped with things like Blind Spot Monitor and Heads up Display not found on it's competition
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I have always been a fan of Mazdas and have previously owned an RX-8 and recently a BT50 pick up.
I've just acquired a Mazda 6 Wagon that I use for work and I'm incredibly impressed with it. It beat everything else in its class in my mind and it's no less fun or enjoyable to drive than my IS350 F Sport. Down on power yes, but still a great drive!
They're hard to go past if you require that sort of car.
I've just acquired a Mazda 6 Wagon that I use for work and I'm incredibly impressed with it. It beat everything else in its class in my mind and it's no less fun or enjoyable to drive than my IS350 F Sport. Down on power yes, but still a great drive!
They're hard to go past if you require that sort of car.
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I've owned two RX-7s in the past as well as a Miata MX-5. I believe another MX-5 will be in my garage within the next six months as a toy car. Have always liked Mazdas and really appreciate how they make an effort to make all their cars fun to drive, unlike some other manufacturers (as I glare a Nissan...)
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The Mazda3 has a nice amount of tech for its price range and looks pretty sharp. But a naturally aspirated 180 bhp and front wheel drive? No thanks. If they do a Mazdaspeed3 with AWD, 300bhp and a DCT I'd be sold in an instant. The first two are actually rumoured, but I doubt they'd offer it with anything other than a manual.
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My wife drives a Mazda CX9 and it's a great SUV that handles quite well. The suspension engineers at Mazda know what they are doing imo.
I love the styling of the new Mazda's but unfortunately, it seems as if they are heading down the path of ultimate efficiency and aren't offering "exciting" engines as options. I love the new 6, but it would be painfully boring. .
I had a 1985 626 many years ago. My Grandpa bought it new, I bought it from him around 2000, and my dad bought it from me in 2004. 3 generations!
I love the styling of the new Mazda's but unfortunately, it seems as if they are heading down the path of ultimate efficiency and aren't offering "exciting" engines as options. I love the new 6, but it would be painfully boring. .
I had a 1985 626 many years ago. My Grandpa bought it new, I bought it from him around 2000, and my dad bought it from me in 2004. 3 generations!
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I test drove a Mazda few years back (2011) . It was cheap made, cheap feel, and the engineers put the gearbox the other way around. You had to move the shifter backwards to change the gears up and forward to change them down. Didn;t make any sense. I never seen this to any car before. Honda it's a much better car overall.
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I test drove a Mazda few years back (2011) . It was cheap made, cheap feel, and the engineers put the gearbox the other way around. You had to move the shifter backwards to change the gears up and forward to change them down. Didn;t make any sense. I never seen this to any car before. Honda it's a much better car overall.
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Porsche and BMW do this, push stick forward to downshift, pull back to upshift.
It is more natural this way, it's Toyota (and others) that have it backwards...
When you accelerate, the G forces force you backwards, thus you should be pulling back on the shifter **** to upshift. Opposite for when you brake.
As long as the car has paddles on the steering wheel/column, no point in using the console shifter.
It is more natural this way, it's Toyota (and others) that have it backwards...
When you accelerate, the G forces force you backwards, thus you should be pulling back on the shifter **** to upshift. Opposite for when you brake.
As long as the car has paddles on the steering wheel/column, no point in using the console shifter.
I test drove a Mazda few years back (2011) . It was cheap made, cheap feel, and the engineers put the gearbox the other way around. You had to move the shifter backwards to change the gears up and forward to change them down. Didn;t make any sense. I never seen this to any car before. Honda it's a much better car overall.
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Porsche and BMW do this, push stick forward to downshift, pull back to upshift.
It is more natural this way, it's Toyota (and others) that have it backwards...
When you accelerate, the G forces force you backwards, thus you should be pulling back on the shifter **** to upshift. Opposite for when you brake.
As long as the car has paddles on the steering wheel/column, no point in using the console shifter.
It is more natural this way, it's Toyota (and others) that have it backwards...
When you accelerate, the G forces force you backwards, thus you should be pulling back on the shifter **** to upshift. Opposite for when you brake.
As long as the car has paddles on the steering wheel/column, no point in using the console shifter.
For me with manual it;s a forward and downwards movement to go forward. but if I want to make the car start moving I engage the first gear which is forward. For me the logic is UP-Forward /Down-Backwards
It is a matter of getting used to it i'm sure but I didn't like to see that the other way I ever seen it before
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Can't get used to the saggy, swoopy, bonsai, no trunk styling.
Regarding the direction of manual auto shifting, the first to come in the 90's (Honda Prelude/VW Passat)shifted down for downshifting. This was for two reasons: The first one was based purely on logic- to keep the words "down and down" together. Move it down the console to shift down a gear is an easy word association match in the brain. Second, to mimic what people were used to for the last thirty years of automatic-equipped cars whose gear shifter moved toward the body to select a lower gear (ya'll remember PRNDL21?). The other makes that came along soon after decided to interject their own process and confuse things.
Regarding the direction of manual auto shifting, the first to come in the 90's (Honda Prelude/VW Passat)shifted down for downshifting. This was for two reasons: The first one was based purely on logic- to keep the words "down and down" together. Move it down the console to shift down a gear is an easy word association match in the brain. Second, to mimic what people were used to for the last thirty years of automatic-equipped cars whose gear shifter moved toward the body to select a lower gear (ya'll remember PRNDL21?). The other makes that came along soon after decided to interject their own process and confuse things.
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