Acura TL SH-AWD vs IS-350 AWD
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http://www.lexus.com/models/IS/detai...fications.html
lists 0-60 5.6sec for IS350-RWD and 5.7sec for IS350-AWD.
Well, I waiting for 2014 to come out. Looks nice in pictures.
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How are you getting these numbers, Lexus website
http://www.lexus.com/models/IS/detai...fications.html
lists 0-60 5.6sec for IS350-RWD and 5.7sec for IS350-AWD.
Well, I waiting for 2014 to come out. Looks nice in pictures.
http://www.lexus.com/models/IS/detai...fications.html
lists 0-60 5.6sec for IS350-RWD and 5.7sec for IS350-AWD.
Well, I waiting for 2014 to come out. Looks nice in pictures.
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If you are going to compare the new IS to the old TL then that is not exactly a fair comparison. A new TLX will be out late this year and that is what you should compare with. It should have Honda's Earth Dreams V6 with direct injection. Honda is pretty secretive so there is not any definitive info out there yet.
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If you are going to compare the new IS to the old TL then that is not exactly a fair comparison. A new TLX will be out late this year and that is what you should compare with. It should have Honda's Earth Dreams V6 with direct injection. Honda is pretty secretive so there is not any definitive info out there yet.
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I personally like current TL Sh-AWD handling, it's on par with Germans. The problem is the steering feel. It feels a bit numb, but overall package is very nice. I don't really feel understeer at the corner even though you claimed it's a front biased AWD, That's probably because my 2006 IS250 has too much understeering.
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Just to me when I drive an Acura it feels like a FWD car, Audis are sort of the same way.
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The TL is a very nice car (I owned an '04 TL), especially with SH-AWD, but it is a bit long in the tooth. I would choose it over the 2IS but not over the 3IS... at least until I've had the chance to see it in person and drive it. I've test driven the latest TL and it's a decent driver. Based on the SH-AWD in the '05 RL I owned, you have to be going through a 90 degree curve at insane speeds to really appreciate it. A RWD car always feels more balanced.
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If you are going to compare the new IS to the old TL then that is not exactly a fair comparison. A new TLX will be out late this year and that is what you should compare with. It should have Honda's Earth Dreams V6 with direct injection. Honda is pretty secretive so there is not any definitive info out there yet.
Lexus didn't try to make the ES sporty and add Awd. They introduced a proper RWD car in the IS nearly 15 years ago.
There will clearly be TLx buyers but I don't think many today have much confidence in the brand.
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Need to remember that this is lexus forum, so there is going to be some bias. No question lexus is more upscale car than acura, but similarly equipied is 350 awd costs more than acura tl shawd, i can buy acura tl shawd tech package for 38-39 k, similarly equiped is 350 awd will be 5 k more. So it also comes down to value you get for your money. J
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With front wheel biased SH-AWD, the car tends to understeer in the handling department. The SH-AWD isn't as good as it claims to be either, having seen one spin out on the highway in the middle of winter is uterly hilarious on a long stretch straight roads. The best awd systems comes from the likes of Audi, Infiniti, Lexus & few others, just not Acura.
The quality of the vehicle is lacking for a luxury brand, most would agree it's just basically a rebadge honda. Example is evident in canada with he CSX (rebadge honda civic with leather option), TSX is the eurospec Accord (TL used to be the rebadge eurospec Accord)
With front wheel biased SH-AWD, the car tends to understeer in the handling department. The SH-AWD isn't as good as it claims to be either, having seen one spin out on the highway in the middle of winter is uterly hilarious on a long stretch straight roads. The best awd systems comes from the likes of Audi, Infiniti, Lexus & few others, just not Acura.
The quality of the vehicle is lacking for a luxury brand, most would agree it's just basically a rebadge honda. Example is evident in canada with he CSX (rebadge honda civic with leather option), TSX is the eurospec Accord (TL used to be the rebadge eurospec Accord)
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Need to remember that this is lexus forum, so there is going to be some bias. No question lexus is more upscale car than acura, but similarly equipied is 350 awd costs more than acura tl shawd, i can buy acura tl shawd tech package for 38-39 k, similarly equiped is 350 awd will be 5 k more. So it also comes down to value you get for your money. J