IS350 Winshield Replacement
Allstate doesn't cover OEM windshield....at least they didn't for me and I fought it hard - I have aftermarket.
At first, I noticed slight wind noise coming from the lower, passenger side of the windshield. Even though it was slight, it was irritating to me because I'm **** and want OEM quality. After I poked around the windshield, I realized whoever installed it reused the side window moldings. The clips broke on the bottom of one of them so wind was getting underneath it at higher speeds. I replaced that molding with a brand new one and all wind noise has gone away. I honestly can't tell a difference now.
At first, I noticed slight wind noise coming from the lower, passenger side of the windshield. Even though it was slight, it was irritating to me because I'm **** and want OEM quality. After I poked around the windshield, I realized whoever installed it reused the side window moldings. The clips broke on the bottom of one of them so wind was getting underneath it at higher speeds. I replaced that molding with a brand new one and all wind noise has gone away. I honestly can't tell a difference now.
Allstate doesn't cover OEM windshield....at least they didn't for me and I fought it hard - I have aftermarket.
At first, I noticed slight wind noise coming from the lower, passenger side of the windshield. Even though it was slight, it was irritating to me because I'm **** and want OEM quality. After I poked around the windshield, I realized whoever installed it reused the side window moldings. The clips broke on the bottom of one of them so wind was getting underneath it at higher speeds. I replaced that molding with a brand new one and all wind noise has gone away. I honestly can't tell a difference now.
At first, I noticed slight wind noise coming from the lower, passenger side of the windshield. Even though it was slight, it was irritating to me because I'm **** and want OEM quality. After I poked around the windshield, I realized whoever installed it reused the side window moldings. The clips broke on the bottom of one of them so wind was getting underneath it at higher speeds. I replaced that molding with a brand new one and all wind noise has gone away. I honestly can't tell a difference now.
P-Rock: thank you for the feedback on the windnoise. I will check it thoroughly after they completely the job and hopefully everything got done correctly.
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From: CA
The windshield is a structural part of the car. The windsheid designed and used by Lexus works in conjuntion with the structural integrity of the car, which also works with the timing of the srs system.
That being said, CA law states if a insurance company mandates use of a A/M part it must meet conditions. safety being one.
Can geico show you proof the a/m glass will work in a life danger situation to work with the timing of the air bags?
nope... Good luck
It is law .... No one has had the ***** to push this issue. safety to me is my life, is it ok to have geico guess it will work the same as Lexus engineers designed?
Have the crash tested a car as mandated by federal law like Lexus must to sell a car in the USA? To pass nhts crash tests? Nope
That being said, CA law states if a insurance company mandates use of a A/M part it must meet conditions. safety being one.
Can geico show you proof the a/m glass will work in a life danger situation to work with the timing of the air bags?
nope... Good luck
It is law .... No one has had the ***** to push this issue. safety to me is my life, is it ok to have geico guess it will work the same as Lexus engineers designed?
Have the crash tested a car as mandated by federal law like Lexus must to sell a car in the USA? To pass nhts crash tests? Nope
So what are we supposed to do? The law was written in such with a way it allows insurance Companies to take Advantage of us.
I am just gonna do what we should do in a free market and take my business elsewhere after this.
I am just gonna do what we should do in a free market and take my business elsewhere after this.
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Joined: Dec 2010
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From: CA
safety doesn't matter to you? push the issue. Push the law
This is my post from another thread:
Lou
I just replaced the windshield on my F. My insurance company was not going to do OEM because of the age of my car, a 2008. But after a day of negotiating and with the help of my agent, I got the OEM stuff, but with a twist. I have built a relationship with the parts manager at my dealer, I actually started the relationship before he became the parts manager. I have found over my long life time, that building these kinds of relationships with businesses and folks who you deal with makes life a lot easier. But, who you choose to build that relationship with is very important.
Anyway, I could get the windshield at a discounted price, cheaper than State Farm could. So they agreed to pay me the out of pocket costs for the windshield, if I bought it directly, and they would pay the installer directly for the installation. The only issue was, since the installer was not making any money off the glass, they would not take responsibility for moving the glass. So, I had to have it installed in the dealer's parking lot. Not really a big deal. So, persistence here and an understanding agent along with knowing the parts manager all paid off in getting me the OEM windshield I wanted.
Now, as regards to Pilkington, I noticed some of the OEM windshields on the dealer's lot were marked Lexus, Pilkington and I asked the installer about this. He told me that Pilkington has two plants, one for OEM glass and one for aftermarket. He told me that they are not the same, but they are good quality for aftermarket stuff. The best glass is OEM. He seemed to know what he was talking about, but, who knows.
My glass is not Pilkington but was marked exactly like the glass they removed.
Lou
Anyway, I could get the windshield at a discounted price, cheaper than State Farm could. So they agreed to pay me the out of pocket costs for the windshield, if I bought it directly, and they would pay the installer directly for the installation. The only issue was, since the installer was not making any money off the glass, they would not take responsibility for moving the glass. So, I had to have it installed in the dealer's parking lot. Not really a big deal. So, persistence here and an understanding agent along with knowing the parts manager all paid off in getting me the OEM windshield I wanted.
Now, as regards to Pilkington, I noticed some of the OEM windshields on the dealer's lot were marked Lexus, Pilkington and I asked the installer about this. He told me that Pilkington has two plants, one for OEM glass and one for aftermarket. He told me that they are not the same, but they are good quality for aftermarket stuff. The best glass is OEM. He seemed to know what he was talking about, but, who knows.
My glass is not Pilkington but was marked exactly like the glass they removed.
Lou
This is part of the Law so we are basically screwed!
"The California Code of Regulations Title 10 Chapter 5 Section 2695.8 (g) states:
1) the parts are at least equal to the original equipment manufacturer parts in terms of kind, quality, safety, fit, and performance"
The Law isnt on the consumers as far as this goes! So the best is to take my bussiness elsewhere (hopefully insurance companies will change their policies if enough people stop using their services).
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Joined: Feb 2007
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From: FL
You will hear a difference in the wind noise and one of the biggest reasons is the molding that goes around the glass that no one seems to be able to reinstall correctly. All new clips and molding should be purchased as they usually break in removal. Also make sure you go to a reputable place or use who the Lexus dealership uses.
I had a horrible experience with multiple windshields put on as they couldn't get it quite right. Years later I find water in my car, at some point they punctured the metal which left a leak into my car. Not until the dealership installer was it done correctly.
I had a horrible experience with multiple windshields put on as they couldn't get it quite right. Years later I find water in my car, at some point they punctured the metal which left a leak into my car. Not until the dealership installer was it done correctly.
I have an aftermarket windshield, and honestly I can't tell the difference from OEM. I had some glass shop with a mobile service come out to my house to replace my windshield (the previous one was not sealed up properly and was hissing all over). I think I paid like 200 or so for the glass and install. Brand is Pilkington, who actually is an OEM for many automakers
You will hear a difference in the wind noise and one of the biggest reasons is the molding that goes around the glass that no one seems to be able to reinstall correctly. All new clips and molding should be purchased as they usually break in removal. Also make sure you go to a reputable place or use who the Lexus dealership uses.
I had a horrible experience with multiple windshields put on as they couldn't get it quite right. Years later I find water in my car, at some point they punctured the metal which left a leak into my car. Not until the dealership installer was it done correctly.
I had a horrible experience with multiple windshields put on as they couldn't get it quite right. Years later I find water in my car, at some point they punctured the metal which left a leak into my car. Not until the dealership installer was it done correctly.
BTW, none of the dealers here do glass installation. They source it out to local installers.
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The windshield is a structural part of the car. The windsheid designed and used by Lexus works in conjuntion with the structural integrity of the car, which also works with the timing of the srs system.
That being said, CA law states if a insurance company mandates use of a A/M part it must meet conditions. safety being one.
Can geico show you proof the a/m glass will work in a life danger situation to work with the timing of the air bags?
nope... Good luck
It is law .... No one has had the ***** to push this issue. safety to me is my life, is it ok to have geico guess it will work the same as Lexus engineers designed?
Have the crash tested a car as mandated by federal law like Lexus must to sell a car in the USA? To pass nhts crash tests? Nope
That being said, CA law states if a insurance company mandates use of a A/M part it must meet conditions. safety being one.
Can geico show you proof the a/m glass will work in a life danger situation to work with the timing of the air bags?
nope... Good luck
It is law .... No one has had the ***** to push this issue. safety to me is my life, is it ok to have geico guess it will work the same as Lexus engineers designed?
Have the crash tested a car as mandated by federal law like Lexus must to sell a car in the USA? To pass nhts crash tests? Nope
Trust me, i already done my researches, spent way too much time with Geico and got nowhere.
This is part of the Law so we are basically screwed!
"The California Code of Regulations Title 10 Chapter 5 Section 2695.8 (g) states:
1) the parts are at least equal to the original equipment manufacturer parts in terms of kind, quality, safety, fit, and performance"
The Law isnt on the consumers as far as this goes! So the best is to take my bussiness elsewhere (hopefully insurance companies will change their policies if enough people stop using their services).
This is part of the Law so we are basically screwed!
"The California Code of Regulations Title 10 Chapter 5 Section 2695.8 (g) states:
1) the parts are at least equal to the original equipment manufacturer parts in terms of kind, quality, safety, fit, and performance"
The Law isnt on the consumers as far as this goes! So the best is to take my bussiness elsewhere (hopefully insurance companies will change their policies if enough people stop using their services).
And, how, exactly does the airbag work in conjunction with the windshield? Isn't it just a piece of glass?
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From: CA
Just saying that an A/M windshield is not as "safe" as OEM doesn't make it true. Is there hard data to back this up? You can't just call your insurance company and say "It's not as safe." They are going to say they have checked it out and it's just as good.
And, how, exactly does the airbag work in conjunction with the windshield? Isn't it just a piece of glass?
And, how, exactly does the airbag work in conjunction with the windshield? Isn't it just a piece of glass?
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Joined: Dec 2010
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From: CA
Just saying that an A/M windshield is not as "safe" as OEM doesn't make it true. Is there hard data to back this up? You can't just call your insurance company and say "It's not as safe." They are going to say they have checked it out and it's just as good.
And, how, exactly does the airbag work in conjunction with the windshield? Isn't it just a piece of glass?
And, how, exactly does the airbag work in conjunction with the windshield? Isn't it just a piece of glass?
I had my windshield replaced 3 times by safelite in the past 3 years. Safelite replaced it with OEM LEXUS windshields at my request all 3 times, and Allstate covered everything since I have full glass coverage.