Help! [steering wheel clockspring problem]
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Help! [steering wheel clockspring problem]
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I was switching out my paddle shifters for my is350 to isf ones. And i guess i pulled the steering out too much because this happened. it feel like a film with some grease. i dont know how to put it back and theres no videos about this.
I was switching out my paddle shifters for my is350 to isf ones. And i guess i pulled the steering out too much because this happened. it feel like a film with some grease. i dont know how to put it back and theres no videos about this.
Last edited by davidbusta; 06-08-20 at 05:31 PM.
#2
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It looks like you got enthused and pulled out more than you needed to. Did you follow a video to remove it like this one?
I'm betting that the ribbon cables and black plastic still attached to the wheel weren't supposed to stay attached when you pulled it. Can you remove that assembly from the back of the steering wheel? The ribbon cables look as if they are spiraling like a slinky so they might just go back if you use them as a guide.
Good luck!
I'm betting that the ribbon cables and black plastic still attached to the wheel weren't supposed to stay attached when you pulled it. Can you remove that assembly from the back of the steering wheel? The ribbon cables look as if they are spiraling like a slinky so they might just go back if you use them as a guide.
Good luck!
Last edited by Protholl; 06-05-20 at 04:53 PM.
#3
It looks like you got enthused and pulled out more than you needed to. Did you follow a video to remove it like this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XYuVgLUbDE
I'm betting that the ribbon cables and black plastic still attached to the wheel weren't supposed to stay attached when you pulled it.
Good luck!
I'm betting that the ribbon cables and black plastic still attached to the wheel weren't supposed to stay attached when you pulled it.
Good luck!
#4
#5
You can drive the car without clockspring (taken them out completely) but you will loose paddle shifter/multifunction steering wheel/volumn control/ radio control and I believe the ecu wont get steering angle input so you will also loose traction control/VSC
In the case that you kept the clockspring installed and they decide to jam up. You will have enough force to break the cable inside while you turn the steering wheel. So no big deal nothing to worry about
In the case that you kept the clockspring installed and they decide to jam up. You will have enough force to break the cable inside while you turn the steering wheel. So no big deal nothing to worry about
#6
You can drive the car without clockspring (taken them out completely) but you will loose paddle shifter/multifunction steering wheel/volumn control/ radio control and I believe the ecu wont get steering angle input so you will also loose traction control/VSC
In the case that you kept the clockspring installed and they decide to jam up. You will have enough force to break the cable inside while you turn the steering wheel. So no big deal nothing to worry about
In the case that you kept the clockspring installed and they decide to jam up. You will have enough force to break the cable inside while you turn the steering wheel. So no big deal nothing to worry about
#7
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I've read where some say you cannot "fix" a clock spring and others say they fixed it without issue.
I'd lean on the side of caution and would tell you to source a good, used replacement. I've search Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist for 2IS "parts cars" to locate that replacement clock spring.
I'd lean on the side of caution and would tell you to source a good, used replacement. I've search Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist for 2IS "parts cars" to locate that replacement clock spring.
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Find the part number and do a where used.
I'm pretty sure that under the air bag is the bolts for the spring as its supposed to stay on the column. That said, I have never done this car, but air bag wiring can not be routed with other energy sources on a ribbon cable like that. If you really think that is true, pull the fuse to the airbag as you don't need to screw up that computer or inadvertently deploy the bag.
Replace with good used as they typically don't fail. But figure out how to properly disassemble first. So why the grease? You take any other pictures?
I'm pretty sure that under the air bag is the bolts for the spring as its supposed to stay on the column. That said, I have never done this car, but air bag wiring can not be routed with other energy sources on a ribbon cable like that. If you really think that is true, pull the fuse to the airbag as you don't need to screw up that computer or inadvertently deploy the bag.
Replace with good used as they typically don't fail. But figure out how to properly disassemble first. So why the grease? You take any other pictures?
#10
Find the part number and do a where used.
I'm pretty sure that under the air bag is the bolts for the spring as its supposed to stay on the column. That said, I have never done this car, but air bag wiring can not be routed with other energy sources on a ribbon cable like that. If you really think that is true, pull the fuse to the airbag as you don't need to screw up that computer or inadvertently deploy the bag.
Replace with good used as they typically don't fail. But figure out how to properly disassemble first. So why the grease? You take any other pictures?
I'm pretty sure that under the air bag is the bolts for the spring as its supposed to stay on the column. That said, I have never done this car, but air bag wiring can not be routed with other energy sources on a ribbon cable like that. If you really think that is true, pull the fuse to the airbag as you don't need to screw up that computer or inadvertently deploy the bag.
Replace with good used as they typically don't fail. But figure out how to properly disassemble first. So why the grease? You take any other pictures?
One thing that I am worried about is that I did spin the thing thats on the steering column when i was reinstalling the messed up piece. I was reading online to not spin that. but i had to spin it in order to jam the ribbon into place. https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...acement-2.html Jeff says why to not spin it in his post on post #29. So what will happen now that I spun it? Right now im sure the ribbon is ripped but what about when the new one is installed? I cant align the new to be in the same direction as the old one because the old one is most likely out of place from the way it should be. Thats the one thing that has me worried about installing the new one that it will rip which is why i want my mechanic to install it for me. maybe his expertise could help him install it properly.
About the grease, after thinking about it i would say it felt more like vaseline. In a picture that I took you could see the substance.
#11
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Rule of thumb is this: If the chassis has say 3 turns lock to lock the clock needs centered when installed.
So if you grab the clock (a used one) and it spins say 5 turns from minor pressure one way to minor pressure the other way, you place it in the middle at 2.5 turns or to the closest alignment points it bolts down and you should be good.
The flip side about buying new is it will be locked in place, centered, until you cut a tab setting it free to rotate.
So if you grab the clock (a used one) and it spins say 5 turns from minor pressure one way to minor pressure the other way, you place it in the middle at 2.5 turns or to the closest alignment points it bolts down and you should be good.
The flip side about buying new is it will be locked in place, centered, until you cut a tab setting it free to rotate.
#12
Rule of thumb is this: If the chassis has say 3 turns lock to lock the clock needs centered when installed.
So if you grab the clock (a used one) and it spins say 5 turns from minor pressure one way to minor pressure the other way, you place it in the middle at 2.5 turns or to the closest alignment points it bolts down and you should be good.
The flip side about buying new is it will be locked in place, centered, until you cut a tab setting it free to rotate.
So if you grab the clock (a used one) and it spins say 5 turns from minor pressure one way to minor pressure the other way, you place it in the middle at 2.5 turns or to the closest alignment points it bolts down and you should be good.
The flip side about buying new is it will be locked in place, centered, until you cut a tab setting it free to rotate.
#13
So I did the install and the old clock spring ribbon got absolutely destroyed its pretty funny how bad it got and I didn’t have much issues except for the airbag light and the occasional times the steering wheel controls didnt work on first press but worked if I pressed 1 or 2 more times.
However, after the install I reconnected the battery and I turned on my car and the airbag light is still on. Everything else works perfect like normal, I pressed all the steering wheel controls many many times it worked like normal. But with the airbag light still on I am a little confused why. Videos I seen the light goes away a few seconds after the car is turned on. I turned my car off and on and still stays on. I rechecked the connectors to the airbag and they are all connected. Could it be possible that I caused more damage internally with the old ribbon damaged like that? Or perhaps the light will simply turn off after the car been off for awhile. Maybe when I go to turn on my car in the morning it'll be off? Or is this a code that I can clear with an OBDII scanner and the fusion app? I'm already in bed I'll try to see if I could clear it in the morning if its still there. Or theres always the possibility that the clock spring was defected. Its OEM and new so I dont think so but who knows.
However, after the install I reconnected the battery and I turned on my car and the airbag light is still on. Everything else works perfect like normal, I pressed all the steering wheel controls many many times it worked like normal. But with the airbag light still on I am a little confused why. Videos I seen the light goes away a few seconds after the car is turned on. I turned my car off and on and still stays on. I rechecked the connectors to the airbag and they are all connected. Could it be possible that I caused more damage internally with the old ribbon damaged like that? Or perhaps the light will simply turn off after the car been off for awhile. Maybe when I go to turn on my car in the morning it'll be off? Or is this a code that I can clear with an OBDII scanner and the fusion app? I'm already in bed I'll try to see if I could clear it in the morning if its still there. Or theres always the possibility that the clock spring was defected. Its OEM and new so I dont think so but who knows.
Last edited by davidbusta; 06-10-20 at 03:29 AM.
#15
For some reason the add on package that I had purchased a few weeks ago uninstalled. I reinstalled it. And now I got a code C1290. I looked up this code and no one has gotten this code when their airbag light is on. Which is really weird. Everyone I seen get this code has the VSC light on.