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Old 04-19-12, 07:19 PM
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I just got new tires and rims installed today, rims are 19" f sport flat face 8" front 9" rear and tires are Michelin Pilot Super Sport 225/40/19 up front and 255/35/19 out back. What I don't understand is how the left camber could be -1.9 and the right could be -.02 . Does the place I took my car not know how to do a proper alignment or is there no way to adjust this out. I am aware that there is no camber adjustment from the factory but is there a way to play with the toe to balance the camber out between the two sides? Is there something I am missing here because it just doesn't see how the camber could be that much different between the two sides.

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Old 04-19-12, 07:31 PM
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are you lowered?
car been in an accident?
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You need to go to an alignment shop with the experience to perform an alignment correctly.

Have a look at my report. Notice the cambers in particular from before and after.


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Yes I am lowered on F-Sport springs and shocks.

Sango do you have any sort of camber kits or all factory adjustments?

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Nope, everything is stock, no camber adjustment/kits required.

I can tell you that geometry (the subframe essentially) of the vehicle needs to be corrected to be able to align the car properly. As you maybe able to tell, the correction of the geometry is reflected in the cambers which appeared to have moved (but they were never adjusted as they do not have adjustments). Also notice everything else, left and right numbers differences appear very close to each other in comparison to your alignment report.

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Old 04-19-12, 08:09 PM
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By correcting geometry is that a matter of loosing some bolts and tweaking the subframe? is that something a competent shop can do or do think there is a problem with my car?
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Essentially yes, and the applicable component pieces in question. As long as they are within factory tolerances, they can be adjusted as the alignment tech I go to phrased it.

There are few shops which can actually do it; just need to find the right one who is competent. Most places including the dealerships will just adjust based on what adjustments are available and not the pieces relating to geometry as they do not know how to do it.

Nope, nothing wrong with the car. The subframe could shift over time as you drive in which normally would get their car aligned on a yearly basis. If you jumped the curb or hit something hard enough, it can make your subframe shift more significantly compared to natural driving.

The the alignment could be also be out when new. Could of been during the transportation of the vehicle on the cargo ship when it was coming from Japan. The cargo could of gotten banged (not the car), therefore could of made the alignment out and the same for the geometry. At the factory, the car was most likely aligned correctly before then.

In my case, when I gotten my car, the subframe was already out besides the alignment from new.

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Sango thank you very much, I will try to find a shop in town that has a clue.

Firestone has agreed to buy a new wheel to replace the one they scratched.

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To add.

Looking at your camber number, just doing simple math... add the your camber actual or before for left and right and divide it by two. That number is would be the approximate correct which should be on left and right cambers assuming the geometry was corrected. For yours, it would be about -1 with F-Sport shock+spring, and for me it's about -0.625 stock. Similar applicable to the rear camber.

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Wow, that's some nonsense from Firestone. They probably had incompetent people or not adequate equipment there touching your wheels. If done properly it should be contact-less on your wheels and would have nothing.

I would probably escalate that.
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