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Koz 12-15-07 05:31 PM

Rear Defroster WTF!
 
What a POS, worst I've ever had/seen!

Koz

Akatsuki 12-15-07 05:45 PM

what do you mean? mine works perfecly fine!

Hartawan 12-15-07 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Akatsuki (Post 3127137)
what do you mean? mine works perfecly fine!

Yeah mine too... at least tell us what happened.

BounceNY 12-15-07 05:51 PM

I agree with KOZ, our rear defroster is pretty weak...:thumbdn:

pylee257 12-15-07 06:08 PM

yeah mines is pretty weak. but then again i have tint so i dont know if that would make a difference

llamaboiz 12-15-07 06:11 PM

I have yet to use mine this winter season :p

Koz 12-15-07 07:35 PM

I have no tint. Forget about snow, it won't even clear a slight foggy window. It clears about a 16th of an inch. The fog will only clear after the interior heat reaches the rear. This is ridiculous!

Koz

i3urton 12-15-07 07:39 PM

wow that sucks i havent used my rear yet.

Ramon 12-15-07 09:44 PM

Mine works quite well, but then again, I've never had actual frost on the car.

viettho 12-15-07 09:59 PM

I think it sucks, like he said, the worst!!!!

weesped 12-15-07 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by llamaboiz (Post 3127177)
I have yet to use mine this winter season :p

! ur so lucky, i have to use it all the time, man i get some meannnnn fog when the temps hit as low as 71 on my part of the island. lmao :D:D:D

ba-b4 12-15-07 10:35 PM

Mine worked fine yesterday when it was fogged up.

arpan176 12-15-07 10:54 PM

we've had it all so far in chicago, ice, sleet, snow, no problems with the rear defroster!

nn432100 12-16-07 12:10 AM

Yea the chicago area is getting pretty crappy this year but I on the other hand like the rear defroster just fine. I just wipe all the snow off and the defroster takes care of the ice in like 2 mins.

iKenn 12-16-07 12:15 AM

nvm..... dumb question

T4styPh0 12-16-07 03:58 AM

I had a tad bit of frost once and fog a few a times it worked fine. Fog started to clear up about 15-20 sec after I turned it on. The frost took about a min or so.

VikH 12-16-07 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by arpan176 (Post 3127611)
we've had it all so far in chicago, ice, sleet, snow, no problems with the rear defroster!


Originally Posted by nn432100 (Post 3127710)
Yea the chicago area is getting pretty crappy this year but I on the other hand like the rear defroster just fine. I just wipe all the snow off and the defroster takes care of the ice in like 2 mins.

+3. Chi has had crappy weather. Obviously it won't melt an inch of snow quickly, but it melts the ice just fine. Get it checked out.

NovaIS350 12-16-07 07:09 AM

Koz is absolutely right, the defroster on the IS is pretty weak. I live in the D.C. Metro area, so it gets pretty cold. When I go to start my car in the mornings, the rear window will be completely foggy, turning the defroster on will have zero to little impact on fog/frost. It takes on average of about 10-15 minutes for the defroster to do its job. thats just WEAK, I mean the side mirrors heat up real quick but for some reason the rear windshield does not get heated up.:thumbdn:

Bichon 12-16-07 08:14 AM

I don't know if there is unit-to-unit variation in defroster performance, or just in expectations. With a thin coating of frost on my rear window, the car takes no more than a minute or two to start forming a zebra-stripe pattern - with clear areas near the wires - giving enough visibility to see what is going on behind me. It takes about 10 minutes to finish the job. Not as powerful as the rear defroster in some other cars I've owned previously, but not terrible either. Compared with my seat coolers which truly are so weak as to be useless, my rear defroster is superman :).

IronPhoenX 12-16-07 09:27 AM

Works great for me with ice in CT

TorontoIS 12-16-07 09:29 AM

Mine has been fine up here in snowy icy Toronto. You guys getting the same huge snow storm that we're getting now?

Joe Z 12-16-07 11:24 AM

To help prevent a "foged up" rear window, do the following:

1) Always use "outside air" when running your heat or a/c

2) Clean it with glass cleaner once a month..

:D

ISF_GG 12-16-07 06:02 PM

Mine works fine, although it doesn't see any ice or snow in sunny southern California ;)

tt061880 12-16-07 06:11 PM

it works fine for me sometimes in the winter, but I am in south florida lol.

tex2670 12-17-07 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by Koz (Post 3127310)
I have no tint. Forget about snow, it won't even clear a slight foggy window. It clears about a 16th of an inch. The fog will only clear after the interior heat reaches the rear. This is ridiculous!

Koz

Did you have the dealer look at it?

Koz 12-17-07 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by tex2670 (Post 3129677)
Did you have the dealer look at it?

Next time I go in I will have them check it. I drove (25 min ride) to work this morning with the rear all fogged. It did absolutely nothing!

Koz

iialcii 12-17-07 05:51 AM

i agree the rear defroster is soo slow

Buds 12-17-07 07:42 AM

I used mine for a few days and it had absolutely no problems.

Jenomic 12-17-07 07:55 AM

same here, just started using mine, no problems SO far......

Koz 12-17-07 09:23 AM

I'm glad to hear some work OK. Now lets see if the Stealer can fix it.

Koz

Joe Z 12-17-07 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Koz (Post 3129710)
Next time I go in I will have them check it. I drove (25 min ride) to work this morning with the rear all fogged. It did absolutely nothing!

Koz

Side questions?? when was the last time you windexed it??
and when running your heater, where you using inside air? or outside air??

Joe Z

Koz 12-17-07 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Z (Post 3130134)
Side questions?? when was the last time you windexed it??
and when running your heater, where you using inside air? or outside air??

Joe Z

I only use a damp microfiber cloth (yellow-Costco) with only water on it. I tried both w/wo the A/C.

Koz

kindred6ul 12-17-07 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Koz (Post 3130414)
I only use a damp microfiber cloth (yellow-Costco) with only water on it. I tried both w/wo the A/C.

Koz

Thats the problem... Water and cloth isn't enough to break down the oils and condensation inside your car (oils accumilate from your leather conditioning and/or dash treatment). You need something with ammonia to clean the windows. I also read that vinegar can break down the oils in preparation for the ammonia based cleaners. I use eagle one 20/20 and microfiber. Oh BTW i never had a fog problem even while street parking in NJ's sub freezing weather.

ReLexin 12-17-07 12:15 PM

mines fine. only had to use it once though. I remember my Envoy's was horrible.

t.is350.h 12-17-07 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by Akatsuki (Post 3127137)
what do you mean? mine works perfecly fine!

Mine also works perfectly fine.

Joe Z 12-17-07 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Koz (Post 3130414)
I only use a damp microfiber cloth (yellow-Costco) with only water on it. I tried both w/wo the A/C.

Koz

Try cleaning all your glass windows with windex or automotive equivalent glass cleaner..
I use the FOAM stuff... forgot the name, but Costco carries it...

I didn't understand your response... are you using outside fresh air when running the heat??
the A/C is mainly used when needing to defrost the front windshield quickly...


Joe Z

r4z0r3ck 12-17-07 11:13 PM

the rear defroster is slow and takes about 15 mins to clearly defrost. i park my car on the outside and even in socal i wake up to window dew every morning due to the cold beach weather. so yah i get in my car and drive 15 mins to work and by the time i get to work itll defrost. the side mirrors on the other hand are quick.

Koz 12-18-07 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Z (Post 3130484)
Try cleaning all your glass windows with windex or automotive equivalent glass cleaner..
I use the FOAM stuff... forgot the name, but Costco carries it...

I didn't understand your response... are you using outside fresh air when running the heat??
the A/C is mainly used when needing to defrost the front windshield quickly...


Joe Z

I've been cleaning rear window defrosters for 35 years and never had a problem. If I'm not mistaken, Toyota recommends NOT using any chemical on the defroster. The rear window defroster does NOT need any assistance from the heater to clear the rear window if it is working properly. Also it should be able to melt snow/ice after 10/15 min of use.

To clarify, I tried every combination of inside/outside supply air with/without A/C. Clearly there is something wrong with the defroster. The window doesn't clear until the interior heat reaches the window (30+ minutes).

Koz

nabbun 12-18-07 07:47 AM

perhaps u should talk to your dealer xD

either that or your windows are open.

Joe Z 12-18-07 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Koz (Post 3132239)
I've been cleaning rear window defrosters for 35 years and never had a problem. If I'm not mistaken, Toyota recommends NOT using any chemical on the defroster. The rear window defroster does NOT need any assistance from the heater to clear the rear window if it is working properly. Also it should be able to melt snow/ice after 10/15 min of use.

To clarify, I tried every combination of inside/outside supply air with/without A/C. Clearly there is something wrong with the defroster. The window doesn't clear until the interior heat reaches the window (30+ minutes).

Koz

I use this and pick them up at Costco..
I spray into the micro fiber.

http://content.costco.com/Images/Con...811482_vpb.jpg
Glass Cleaner
Ammonia free
Streak free
Contains no ozone depleting chemicals
Safe for use on glass surfaces, windows, mirrors, windshields, acrylics, polycarbonates, tile, porcelain and chrome
Foam spray
Clean, fresh scent


The reason I ask about the inside / outside air is the following:

During my morning commute in the 50 degree range.. if I have no heat or air on and the button is set to re-circulated air, my windows will tend to fog up slowly from the back towards the front... especially if they haven't been cleaned in a while..
If I have the button set to outside air with everything off, my windows will not fog up.

Sounds like its not getting warm quick enough.. which is weird. :uh:


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