just did the navi hack
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From: CT
if i am not mistaken your referring to the solution to press the top left bottom left top left ect... to override the problem, i guess this is a workable solution and would have considered it if it didnt need to be done every time i upgrade my nav disk.
i suspect since the 08's dont require the press of the "I agree" button anymore mine will do that also with the new software version.
i suspect since the 08's dont require the press of the "I agree" button anymore mine will do that also with the new software version.
Racer
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From: DC
i know several people on the acura forums have managed to fully hack the software on the acura nav systems, in the sence they are doing things like making custom welcome screens graphics and the like, i dont imagine it would be lomng before someone figures out a way to burn their own DVD that totally removes all the annyoances at a software level.
The Lexus system is Denso proprietary, there is no way to modify it...
Racer
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From: DC
Ya... My BMW friend who has a supercharged M5 doesn't understand this concept... He's always playing with the fuel maps and stuff and asks me why I don't "chip" my car or mess around with engine computer settings...
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From: colorado
the sales manager grabbed a sheet she said they just got from the rep a day before.
the only changes to the IS are supposed to be the addition of a coin holder, the rear seat has been redesigned slightly to allow more rear leg room and the i agree screen will wait (i forget ) 10-20 seconds and then go away. i dont know if when it "goes away" means it goes to the navi screen or goes blank or what i just know you wont have to push it anymore.
it seems there were a lot of complaints in this area and lexus responded.
in a month i guess you can say you heard it here first!
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From: CT
directly from the sales manager, i was very speciffic when i bought the 07 of any changes due in 08 before i made my decision, short of pinning them down on the floor and choking someone i was very adiment about getting straight answers.
the sales manager grabbed a sheet she said they just got from the rep a day before.
the only changes to the IS are supposed to be the addition of a coin holder, the rear seat has been redesigned slightly to allow more rear leg room and the i agree screen will wait (i forget ) 10-20 seconds and then go away. i dont know if when it "goes away" means it goes to the navi screen or goes blank or what i just know you wont have to push it anymore.
it seems there were a lot of complaints in this area and lexus responded.
in a month i guess you can say you heard it here first!
the sales manager grabbed a sheet she said they just got from the rep a day before.
the only changes to the IS are supposed to be the addition of a coin holder, the rear seat has been redesigned slightly to allow more rear leg room and the i agree screen will wait (i forget ) 10-20 seconds and then go away. i dont know if when it "goes away" means it goes to the navi screen or goes blank or what i just know you wont have to push it anymore.
it seems there were a lot of complaints in this area and lexus responded.
in a month i guess you can say you heard it here first!
Lexus Champion
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From: Southeastern PA
Interesting.. so I guess complaining to Lexus does work. Guess they were willing to take the risk of not having us push "I Agree" anymore. Now how about the rest of the nav/audio system? Wonder how much complaining that'll take to get those restrictions lifted, clearly some amount of complaining works on them, and being sued must not be their main concern if they are willing to change it based on customer opinion. Time will tell as the first shipment of 2008s will ship out shortly if they haven't already.
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From: CA
I would imagine if more people decide to buy aftermarket instead as I have, they'll either have to increase the price or drop the product to cover costs. I seriously doubt the nav "I Agree" button will significantly affect their product liability rates, I'm sure they're absurdly high right now anyway because so many idiots would sue for the smallest of things in hopes of any cash settlement in lieu of going to trial.
If I sued over the "I Agree" button, I would want a free update for everyone who complains about it as a "fair" settlement. How about sign a document once when you buy the car and call it a day?
If I sued over the "I Agree" button, I would want a free update for everyone who complains about it as a "fair" settlement. How about sign a document once when you buy the car and call it a day?
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Lead Lap
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From: CT
Well the price of the 350 is going up $200, but the more popular 250s are down, so overall I'd say they are charging less. That could just mean other parts have gotten that much cheaper to offset a higher liability insurance rate. I could be wrong, but I'm not a believer in the liability insurance as being the reason/excuse for locking down the nav features. There are too many variables involved to say how much that really matters. I think it's more of a PR/marketing thing about the safety of the car.
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From: So Cal
Blah, blah, blah. You guys crack me up, you get giddy over a self removing 'I agree' nag screen. ZZZZZZ. Wake me up when Lexus does something truly inspiring like a true rev matching sports mode for the paddle shifters . . .
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From: CT
I guess it depends on what's more important to you. I don't have a real problem with the driving of the car, it gets me from point a to point b just like a Ford Escort would, but the "luxury" options which I am paying a premium for over the Ford Taurus are no longer easily accessible when the car is in motion, and that bothers me.