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Old 12-14-06, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by clubfoot
Had the lower dust brake pads installed today PN: 04465-30410, asked to get the rotor thickness from the tech but never did,....rear pads are at 6mm after 32,000Km.

First thing I noticed of course was that the pedal was harder than before and the brakes engaged sooner (new pads). Had one panic stop on my way home, traffic, lots of stopping power still there no issues. It feels very close to the OEM pads under 70Km/h, with engine barking, the very last bit before full stop is not as "grabby" as the oem pads. Thank G&% no squealing, rattling or other noises. Will have more time tomorrow to test it completely also washed the wheels tonight for comparison.
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Glad my earlier post helped. Am encouraged that performance appears unaffected. Let us know about extent of brake dust, if any.

To US fellow CL members who do not appear to have the benefit of an official TSB, however note the pad part numbers. This should help in requesting them from US dealers. Glad your northern neighbors could be of help.
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
There is no TSB in the US. It is for Canada only.
There must be a TSB for this in the US. I have an appointment on Monday to replace my pads for less noise and dust. (free of charge)
Old 12-14-06, 01:26 PM
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Clubfoot, I hate to burst your bubble but that part number (04465-30410) is not a special pad at all. It's the same pad that you had in your car already. It's the same pad that Lexus put on all IS350's from the factory. Again, there is no special dustless pad for these cars. Take a look at the part number directly out of the latest parts book. The 350 is the GSE21. Unless, of course, Canadian cars have a dustier pad than the US and they simply put a US pad on your car. I'm almost certain that US and Canada use the exact same pad from the factory

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[QUOTE=kensteele;2296811]not wanting to open a can of worms but the key thing to remember about a recall is 1) safety-related (voluntary or involuntary), 2) proactive notification and communication to the customer, 3) free of charge to the customer, and 4) positive identification of affected group(s)....among other federal requirements.[
Federally mandated.
Old 12-14-06, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by IS350jet
Clubfoot, I hate to burst your bubble but that part number (04465-30410) is not a special pad at all. It's the same pad that you had in your car already. It's the same pad that Lexus put on all IS350's from the factory. Again, there is no special dustless pad for these cars. Take a look at the part number directly out of the latest parts book. The 350 is the GSE21. Unless, of course, Canadian cars have a dustier pad than the US and they simply put a US pad on your car. I'm almost certain that US and Canada use the exact same pad from the factory
You know what, it wouldn't surprise me the least bit if they were the US pads, because if you blind folded me I couldn't tell them apart, the TSB is 2203 in Canada and maybe we originally got a dustier pad, it won't be the first time we got screwed out of the stuff from Lexus here. No key fob gloves, no park assist, no radar cruse, no voice command for A/C

Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the TSB, just my service invoice to check the part numbers.
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Originally Posted by lexKimmel
There must be a TSB for this in the US. I have an appointment on Monday to replace my pads for less noise and dust. (free of charge)
I think this says it all - there is NO TSB for the US IS350 brake system.
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Default GS430 Alternate brake pad TSB

Here's the information for the US spec GS430 alternate brake pads - these pads are said to fit the IS350 calipers, but have NOT been approved for use by TMSUSA for the US spec IS350:
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Originally Posted by IS350jet
Clubfoot, I hate to burst your bubble but that part number (04465-30410) is not a special pad at all. It's the same pad that you had in your car already. It's the same pad that Lexus put on all IS350's from the factory. Again, there is no special dustless pad for these cars. Take a look at the part number directly out of the latest parts book. The 350 is the GSE21. Unless, of course, Canadian cars have a dustier pad than the US and they simply put a US pad on your car. I'm almost certain that US and Canada use the exact same pad from the factory
OK guys lets see if I can clarify this once and for all. The Canadian TSB # 2203, under Parts Information section quotes "Previous Part No. 04465--30410, Current Part No. 04465--30400, Part Name: Pad Kit, Disc Brake, Front". I read this to mean that "Previous" refers to the dust creating one, while "Current" refers to the replacement one. I am not sure why Clubfoot's workorder refers to the former...clerical error, or did they install standard pads in error? Maybe he should ask the service advisor.

As I type this I have a hard copy of the TSB in front of me, and if I knew how to post an image I would, as it would clear up a lot of the earlier comments that questioned the reliability and credibility of this info. Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
Here's the information for the US spec GS430 alternate brake pads - these pads are said to fit the IS350 calipers, but have NOT been approved for use by TMSUSA for the US spec IS350:
Follow up post. The Canadian TSB applies to '06 and '07 GS 430 AND IS 350 models. Not sure why this is not consistent with the US...thought brake specs were the same. Go figure.
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Agreed, this doesn't make much sense at all. It would seem if it's good in Canada it would be good in the US. Who knows, it may be in work?
Old 12-14-06, 05:30 PM
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I think US and CAN warranties are different as well, no?
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Originally Posted by kensteele
I think US and CAN warranties are different as well, no?
Ken:
From reading the brochures and web sites, they appear to be the same. Not sure why this has anything to do with quality/maintenance issues anyway. Other than predominance of speedometer markings (kilometers/miles) and availability of certain options and group packaging of same in Canada, the basics are the same. All very puzzeling and strange. Some day we will figure it out.
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Interesting, the 04465-30400 is exclusive to the GS450h. I wonder if it will fit the IS350, and if so, will it be less dusty.
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OK, sent off an email to the service advisor this AM. The word previous tells me that they were the original pads, and the current pad is the replacement........
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Hi Clubfoot,
Any update on the pad confusion? Either way, how are the ones you have now so far for dust and stopping power?


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