IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013) Discussion about the 2006+ model IS models

Power steering issue

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-18-22, 04:37 PM
  #1  
92 SC400
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
 
92 SC400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: CA
Posts: 3,593
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default Power steering issue

I had previously been posted in this thread, but rather than continue to hijack it, starting a new one...

Quick recap - P/S light on dash came on out of nowhere. Steering never felt weird or anything leading up to the light coming on, it just stopped working one day. I checked connections, things look fine so I purchased a used unit off of eBay (89650-53082), and plugged it in. The light is gone, however, power steering hasn't returned - it might be slightly better than before, but probably safer to say it's still not working. I've only backed it off and back on to ramps (took the opportunity to do an oil change as well), so the car hasn't moved more than 10' total.

I managed to fully drain the battery during the 2.5-3 weeks the car didn't move, so I took the battery to get charged and tested and it came back good.

Any chance the unit needs to be calibrated even though it was used? Or do I need to drive around a bit or something before the car recognizes it?

Last edited by 92 SC400; 02-18-22 at 04:40 PM.
Old 02-21-22, 04:50 PM
  #2  
coolrydz
Rookie
 
coolrydz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: gauteng
Posts: 43
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 92 SC400
I had previously been posted in this thread, but rather than continue to hijack it, starting a new one...

Quick recap - P/S light on dash came on out of nowhere. Steering never felt weird or anything leading up to the light coming on, it just stopped working one day. I checked connections, things look fine so I purchased a used unit off of eBay (89650-53082), and plugged it in. The light is gone, however, power steering hasn't returned - it might be slightly better than before, but probably safer to say it's still not working. I've only backed it off and back on to ramps (took the opportunity to do an oil change as well), so the car hasn't moved more than 10' total.

I managed to fully drain the battery during the 2.5-3 weeks the car didn't move, so I took the battery to get charged and tested and it came back good.

Any chance the unit needs to be calibrated even though it was used? Or do I need to drive around a bit or something before the car recognizes it?
Recalibrate the steering ecu but you first need to clear the stored error code. It should work perfectly afterwards.
Old 02-21-22, 05:02 PM
  #3  
2013FSport
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (2)
 
2013FSport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: OR
Posts: 6,434
Received 1,484 Likes on 1,238 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 92 SC400
I had previously been posted in this thread, but rather than continue to hijack it, starting a new one...

Quick recap - P/S light on dash came on out of nowhere. Steering never felt weird or anything leading up to the light coming on, it just stopped working one day. I checked connections, things look fine so I purchased a used unit off of eBay (89650-53082), and plugged it in. The light is gone, however, power steering hasn't returned - it might be slightly better than before, but probably safer to say it's still not working. I've only backed it off and back on to ramps (took the opportunity to do an oil change as well), so the car hasn't moved more than 10' total.

I managed to fully drain the battery during the 2.5-3 weeks the car didn't move, so I took the battery to get charged and tested and it came back good.

Any chance the unit needs to be calibrated even though it was used? Or do I need to drive around a bit or something before the car recognizes it?
The PN provided looks like an 11-13 F-Sport. Those are slightly stiffer than stock.

They also change input with speed so my question is this. If stopped is it a two hand effort to steer full left or right from center or will a couple fingers in the spokes be enough to steer it?
If the later, go drive it and see how it feels.
Old 02-21-22, 08:47 PM
  #4  
92 SC400
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
 
92 SC400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: CA
Posts: 3,593
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by coolrydz
Recalibrate the steering ecu but you first need to clear the stored error code. It should work perfectly afterwards.
I never got a CEL, but I'll ask the shop to clear codes before re-calibrating anyway.

Originally Posted by 2013FSport
The PN provided looks like an 11-13 F-Sport. Those are slightly stiffer than stock.

They also change input with speed so my question is this. If stopped is it a two hand effort to steer full left or right from center or will a couple fingers in the spokes be enough to steer it?
If the later, go drive it and see how it feels.
It's a two hand effort; seems like I need to go find someone with Teachsteam to calibrate it.
The following users liked this post:
2013FSport (02-21-22)
Old 02-21-22, 08:54 PM
  #5  
coolrydz
Rookie
 
coolrydz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: gauteng
Posts: 43
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 92 SC400
I never got a CEL, but I'll ask the shop to clear codes before re-calibrating anyway.



It's a two hand effort; seems like I need to go find someone with Teachsteam to calibrate it.
So it never showed the PS light on the dash?
If so, that's strange. If it's a 2 hand effort, you definitely need to get it recalibrated, it takes less than 5 minutes.
Old 02-21-22, 09:12 PM
  #6  
92 SC400
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
 
92 SC400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: CA
Posts: 3,593
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by coolrydz
So it never showed the PS light on the dash?
If so, that's strange. If it's a 2 hand effort, you definitely need to get it recalibrated, it takes less than 5 minutes.
Yeah, the P/S light came on, but not CEL. I guess I was assuming the P/S would not have generated a stored code - I'm probably wrong.
Old 02-21-22, 10:38 PM
  #7  
coolrydz
Rookie
 
coolrydz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: gauteng
Posts: 43
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 92 SC400
Yeah, the P/S light came on, but not CEL. I guess I was assuming the P/S would not have generated a stored code - I'm probably wrong.
First step to get this sorted will be to get the code cleared then recalibrate the PS ecu, it will ask to turn the steering wheel left or right more than 90 degrees then center the wheel, the steering wheel will vibrate for few seconds, then it will indicate process complete. From there the steering wheel will feel normal again.
Old 02-22-22, 11:26 AM
  #8  
2013FSport
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (2)
 
2013FSport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: OR
Posts: 6,434
Received 1,484 Likes on 1,238 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 92 SC400
Yeah, the P/S light came on, but not CEL. I guess I was assuming the P/S would not have generated a stored code - I'm probably wrong.

Have you looked under the car at the R&P to confirm all wires and cables are okay? Like some road debris didn't damage something?

PS - OBD Fusion App and the Lexus PID pack $20 total, allow you to see inputs and checks associated with the rack and most of the rest of the car too. Its worth every penny for troubleshooting.
​​rack.I recall looking at live steering angle data, motor temperature of rack, current draw of rack when steering vs going straight. It might be helpful.
Old 02-22-22, 01:38 PM
  #9  
92 SC400
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
 
92 SC400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: CA
Posts: 3,593
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 2013FSport
Have you looked under the car at the R&P to confirm all wires and cables are okay? Like some road debris didn't damage something?

PS - OBD Fusion App and the Lexus PID pack $20 total, allow you to see inputs and checks associated with the rack and most of the rest of the car too. Its worth every penny for troubleshooting.
​​rack.I recall looking at live steering angle data, motor temperature of rack, current draw of rack when steering vs going straight. It might be helpful.
Yeah, I took a quick look at the 3 plugs under the car and they didn't appear damaged. If the R&P were bad, do you know if it would trigger a CEL or any other warning lights?
Old 02-22-22, 06:34 PM
  #10  
2013FSport
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (2)
 
2013FSport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: OR
Posts: 6,434
Received 1,484 Likes on 1,238 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 92 SC400
Yeah, I took a quick look at the 3 plugs under the car and they didn't appear damaged. If the R&P were bad, do you know if it would trigger a CEL or any other warning lights?
Id say yes, as the VDIM interaction uses the PS/brakes to prevent us from going sideways and all that jazz.
Old 02-22-22, 11:01 PM
  #11  
ameer90
Driver
 
ameer90's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Muscat
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by coolrydz
So it never showed the PS light on the dash?
If so, that's strange. If it's a 2 hand effort, you definitely need to get it recalibrated, it takes less than 5 minutes.

I have 2011 lexus is250 and I have a little bit stiff steering system when the car is stopping and moving as well, when I speed 120 km/h and try to turn left or right I feel the steering is hard to turn with one hand. the problem is really annoying me.

what can I do?

is it something related with SAS?
there is no power steering light on the dashboard.
Old 03-08-22, 04:54 PM
  #12  
92 SC400
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
 
92 SC400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: CA
Posts: 3,593
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Finally got around to finding a shop with Techstream to get the ECU calibrated. That fixed it and I have power steering again. The F Sport ECU feels slightly stiffer than the regular one, but it's not a big difference IMO.

In case anyone is wondering, no, I did not drive around for the past 6 weeks or so without power steering... haha The car sat around - a lot! One of the benefits of now working fully remotely I suppose; or drawbacks, given the lack of urgency to get the car fixed... Depends on your perspective I guess! haha

Thanks to everyone who provided input!
Old 03-08-22, 09:27 PM
  #13  
2013FSport
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (2)
 
2013FSport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: OR
Posts: 6,434
Received 1,484 Likes on 1,238 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 92 SC400
Finally got around to finding a shop with Techstream to get the ECU calibrated. That fixed it and I have power steering again. The F Sport ECU feels slightly stiffer than the regular one, but it's not a big difference IMO.

In case anyone is wondering, no, I did not drive around for the past 6 weeks or so without power steering... haha The car sat around - a lot! One of the benefits of now working fully remotely I suppose; or drawbacks, given the lack of urgency to get the car fixed... Depends on your perspective I guess! haha

Thanks to everyone who provided input!
And that was an ebay used steering ECU (EPS unit)?

Glad that fixed it!
Old 03-08-22, 09:33 PM
  #14  
92 SC400
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
 
92 SC400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: CA
Posts: 3,593
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 2013FSport
And that was an ebay used steering ECU (EPS unit)?

Glad that fixed it!
Correct, it was a used ECU from eBay. Supposedly from a 2011 IS250 F Sport, seller included the VIN, but I didn't do any sort of verification on that.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
MasAmiMas
RC - 1st Gen (2015-present)
3
09-19-22 12:31 AM
needa
RX - 3rd Gen (2010-2015)
12
02-21-22 03:14 PM
NewG
GS - 3rd Gen (2006-2011)
15
01-04-22 01:24 AM
Studiogeek
Performance & Maintenance
13
05-28-13 02:07 PM
IXI187IXI
GS - 3rd Gen (2006-2011)
23
11-12-10 01:53 PM



Quick Reply: Power steering issue



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:26 PM.