How old are you?
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Joined: Oct 2009
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From: KS
I thought the same thing. Man, all you young guys with IS 350's let alone the F - I would have killed myself with a 300 HP car when I was that age. (going back to read this - it's official - I am old and my father now)
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Joined: Jul 2009
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From: Ireland
i'm 22 M, this is my third lexus, had a is200 which i wrote off
, then got another is200, and sold that i now have a IS220D nice car to drive planing on moding it like some of the cars i've seen here which are unbelieveable, first mods, tints and lowering springs before christmas
, then got another is200, and sold that i now have a IS220D nice car to drive planing on moding it like some of the cars i've seen here which are unbelieveable, first mods, tints and lowering springs before christmas
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Joined: May 2009
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From: TX
The people with F's at age 19, 20, 21 fall into one of two categories usually:
a) wealthy parents purchased them their car
or
b) their parents (father, let's say) own some sort of company right, and the ultimate plan is to bring the kid in into the company and have him ultimately take it over. usually the person will sway this into "Oh it's my car, I bought it with my 'own' cash" but it's still rather deceptive. there's a huge, huge difference between actually building up your own career from virtually scratch and just getting into a high paying position right off the bat because your father owns the company or has powerful connections or something like that.
To me this is not all that impressive at all. I fall into the same category, I'm going to take over my father's business. I'm not going to run around claiming that the money I get as an "intern" is somehow purely my own. It's money in the family, it's my dad's money. Maybe once I grow older and actually have full responsibility I'll give myself permission to claim that I purchased whatever I purchase "totally on my own" but at the age of 20 I think it's somewhat tactless to do so.
To me, when you say "I'm 19/20/21/22/23 and I bought the new IS-F myself or the IS 350 myself"... it's only admirable/impressive if you've truly accumulated the means to purchase your car yourself, and this is rarely (if ever?) the case.
This really only applies to the brand new loaded IS 350s, the new F's which are $45-$65k. What 19 or 20 year old has ~$80k-$100k lying around (the amount you need JUST to afford the car taking into account insurance, gas, and the fact that blowing every penny you have on a car does not constitute being able to "afford" it) that he/she accumulated truly by him or herself?
a) wealthy parents purchased them their car
or
b) their parents (father, let's say) own some sort of company right, and the ultimate plan is to bring the kid in into the company and have him ultimately take it over. usually the person will sway this into "Oh it's my car, I bought it with my 'own' cash" but it's still rather deceptive. there's a huge, huge difference between actually building up your own career from virtually scratch and just getting into a high paying position right off the bat because your father owns the company or has powerful connections or something like that.
To me this is not all that impressive at all. I fall into the same category, I'm going to take over my father's business. I'm not going to run around claiming that the money I get as an "intern" is somehow purely my own. It's money in the family, it's my dad's money. Maybe once I grow older and actually have full responsibility I'll give myself permission to claim that I purchased whatever I purchase "totally on my own" but at the age of 20 I think it's somewhat tactless to do so.
To me, when you say "I'm 19/20/21/22/23 and I bought the new IS-F myself or the IS 350 myself"... it's only admirable/impressive if you've truly accumulated the means to purchase your car yourself, and this is rarely (if ever?) the case.
This really only applies to the brand new loaded IS 350s, the new F's which are $45-$65k. What 19 or 20 year old has ~$80k-$100k lying around (the amount you need JUST to afford the car taking into account insurance, gas, and the fact that blowing every penny you have on a car does not constitute being able to "afford" it) that he/she accumulated truly by him or herself?
I looked through a few of these and it looks like one things stands out more than any other. They seem to be purchased by people that are either pre-kids, or post-kids. And by looking at the rear seat room it looks like even a toddler seat would have a tough time fitting back there. Can anyone say otherwise? These cars certainly still seem to appeal to a younger market, but I've seen some guys in their 50s posting too. For the record everyone I know that has an IS350 is over 45, 2 guys and a friend's wife. I guess its also interesting to know what they came out of prior to the IS350. I'm labeling these as actually what their IS replaced for them. My co-worker had 2 C5ZO6s before it, the other guy, believe it or not, a 69 Camaro, then a supercharged miata, and then my friend's wife has had several BMW 3 series.
Last edited by RUSSOM; Nov 7, 2009 at 08:01 PM.
F is for Fraud
Joined: Aug 2009
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From: Québec
Whether or not rich parents are to be accounted for matters very little. I know a lot of people who were as fortunate as me growing up, who've been working excessively hard to get what they want, even though their parents are behind it all in the first place. This is the case with me. My father helped with with the first business, and the rest is all my doing.
Oh.. 21 now, still male, IS F.
Oh.. 21 now, still male, IS F.
