True, true, will have a V8. Given the look of the E90 M3, pretty sure they could not tweak it enough to be attractive to me. As for the V8, I think the power and efficiency of the current car is really impressive, and that the 400hp V8 may be overkill?? I have to admit that I think Audi moving to a V8 for the S4 was a bad move considering that all of the extra displacement did not exactly make the car a rocket ship. In fact, the manufacture numbers for 0-60 for the auto S4 and IS350 are the same!!