Official HP and Torque numbers
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From: Arizona
Originally Posted by AmethySC
Thanx, I was hoping the IS250 will have slightly higher hp/torque than that.
U.S. will probably have a couple more color choices.
What exactly is Tungsten Pearl ?
2 Black's & no plain silver color ? That's very unusual
U.S. will probably have a couple more color choices.
What exactly is Tungsten Pearl ?
2 Black's & no plain silver color ? That's very unusual
Im even a little skeptical of G35s new 298 hp rating until I see some dyno numbers of 253 rwhp or above!
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From: California
Originally Posted by biker
Two things struck me by the Canadian model. Summer tires on the IS250 (yet all seasons on the 350) and 12:1 compression ratio. Lots of TBDs in there still.
Originally Posted by biker
I have a feeling that the 201 HP is being lowballed. How much you want to bet in the near future the engine will somehow will make like 215HP (a la G35 HP bump) with very little actually being done to it.
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From: SF
Originally Posted by Inabj2
I just hope its not overatted 310 hp or "assuming a 300 percent drivetrain loss" like the auto SC300 was severely overated to 225 hp (more like 185)!!! If its 310 hp this car better dyno at very least 263 rwhp or more... It better not pull the same bs it pulled 13 years ago with the SC. I just dont fanthom how lexus got away with severely overating their cars like it did, while mazda got nailed for it.
Im even a little skeptical of G35s new 298 hp rating until I see some dyno numbers of 253 rwhp or above!
Im even a little skeptical of G35s new 298 hp rating until I see some dyno numbers of 253 rwhp or above!
i think u meant 30% drivetrain loss, but 30% is still a lot to lose.
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From: Florida
Originally Posted by vwong
Yeah, I noticed the CR too. That's pretty high.
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From: CA
Originally Posted by TwiBlueG35
Wow if this information is true, Lexus has captured the crown in this class of sports sedan as far as horsepower rating is concerned. I call them four best near-luxury sports sedans:
Lexus IS350: 3.5L DOHC V6 310hp 280lb-ft of torque
Infiniti G35 sedan: 3.5L DOHC V6 298hp(6MT) 260lb-ft of torque/280hp(5AT) 270lb-ft of torque
Acura TL: 3.2L SOHC V6 270hp 238lb-ft of torque
BMW 330i: 3.0L DOHC I6 255hp 220lb-ft of torque
I gotta see the comparison of these four, no need to include others like C350 Sport, A4 3.2 quattro, S40 T5, X-Type 3.0, etc.
But there is one thing weird about the new IS350. If it really has 310hp, so it outpower its big brother GS430? A 3.5L V6 producing higher horsepower than a 4.3L V8? Hmmmmmm......
Lexus IS350: 3.5L DOHC V6 310hp 280lb-ft of torque
Infiniti G35 sedan: 3.5L DOHC V6 298hp(6MT) 260lb-ft of torque/280hp(5AT) 270lb-ft of torque
Acura TL: 3.2L SOHC V6 270hp 238lb-ft of torque
BMW 330i: 3.0L DOHC I6 255hp 220lb-ft of torque
I gotta see the comparison of these four, no need to include others like C350 Sport, A4 3.2 quattro, S40 T5, X-Type 3.0, etc.
But there is one thing weird about the new IS350. If it really has 310hp, so it outpower its big brother GS430? A 3.5L V6 producing higher horsepower than a 4.3L V8? Hmmmmmm......
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From: ------
Originally Posted by Inabj2
I just hope its not overatted 310 hp or "assuming a 300 percent drivetrain loss" like the auto SC300 was severely overated to 225 hp (more like 185)!!! If its 310 hp this car better dyno at very least 263 rwhp or more... It better not pull the same bs it pulled 13 years ago with the SC. I just dont fanthom how lexus got away with severely overating their cars like it did, while mazda got nailed for it.
Im even a little skeptical of G35s new 298 hp rating until I see some dyno numbers of 253 rwhp or above!
Im even a little skeptical of G35s new 298 hp rating until I see some dyno numbers of 253 rwhp or above!
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From: France
Originally Posted by CDN_Lexus
Just received word today:
IS250 hp (kW): 201 (150) @ 6400 rpm Torque lb. ft. (N.m.) 184 (250) @ 4,800 rpm
IS350 hp (kW): 310 (231) @ 6400 rpm " " 280 (380) @ 4,800 rpm
Canadian Colours:
Crystal White 0062
Glacier Frost Mica 0074
Black Pearl 01G0
Tungsten Pearl 01G1
Black Onyx 0202
Matador Red Mica 03R1
Blue Onyx Metallic 08P8
IS250 hp (kW): 201 (150) @ 6400 rpm Torque lb. ft. (N.m.) 184 (250) @ 4,800 rpm
IS350 hp (kW): 310 (231) @ 6400 rpm " " 280 (380) @ 4,800 rpm
Canadian Colours:
Crystal White 0062
Glacier Frost Mica 0074
Black Pearl 01G0
Tungsten Pearl 01G1
Black Onyx 0202
Matador Red Mica 03R1
Blue Onyx Metallic 08P8
And according to what I've read on lexus.ca, we'll have only 205/55R16 inch tires on IS250 RWD, while we get 215/45ZR17 inch on IS200.
Does not sound as good news for me.
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From: Canada
Originally Posted by TED_FR
Since it looks like we won't get the IS350 in France and that the IS300 will be gone by then, the top of the range for us will be a 201 hp IS250. That's damn low!
And according to what I've read on lexus.ca, we'll have only 205/55R16 inch tires on IS250 RWD, while we get 215/45ZR17 inch on IS200.
Does not sound as good news for me.
And according to what I've read on lexus.ca, we'll have only 205/55R16 inch tires on IS250 RWD, while we get 215/45ZR17 inch on IS200.
Does not sound as good news for me.
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Originally Posted by DC52E55
i wonder if tungsten pearl is silver color we were seeing in the pictures.
for me, it will be either tungsten pearl or crystal white. ummm black pearl doesnt sound too bad either.
for me, it will be either tungsten pearl or crystal white. ummm black pearl doesnt sound too bad either.
0202 black non metalic
First time i see codes for those silverish colors, must be some completly new color...
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Originally Posted by TED_FR
Since it looks like we won't get the IS350 in France and that the IS300 will be gone by then, the top of the range for us will be a 201 hp IS250. That's damn low!
And according to what I've read on lexus.ca, we'll have only 205/55R16 inch tires on IS250 RWD, while we get 215/45ZR17 inch on IS200.
Does not sound as good news for me.
And according to what I've read on lexus.ca, we'll have only 205/55R16 inch tires on IS250 RWD, while we get 215/45ZR17 inch on IS200.
Does not sound as good news for me.
Originally Posted by UDel
There was an ongoing debate if the G35 coupe was really putting out 280hp or 20hp more then the sedan. Many people dynoed the 2 cars and the coupe was only coming up a few horsepower more and nowhere near 20. Automatic coupes and sedans were usaully getting the same 0-60 and some people thought the sedan felt faster. The sedan maybe a little lighter I believe or it maybe the older Acura TL was lighter compared to the CL I was thinking of. Some people also speculate that the newer 2.2 liter in the S2000 was underated and put out more like 250-260hp from some dyno numbers. I never heard about the SC300 being overrated in hp. Did the 2nd Gen GS300 220hp come out to be overrated?
I remeber the older 250 HP 1UZ-FE in the early SC4 and LS4 were only putting down about 180 to the wheels. That is a 70 HP loss and near 30%. When I got my 93 SC400, even with 250 HP and the supposed better RWD my 230 HP Acura Legend felt as quick or quicker. My year Legend generally put down around 175-180HP to the wheels.
Last edited by CK6Speed; Jun 7, 2005 at 05:08 AM.
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From: Spain
Originally Posted by TED_FR
Since it looks like we won't get the IS350 in France and that the IS300 will be gone by then, the top of the range for us will be a 201 hp IS250. That's damn low!
And according to what I've read on lexus.ca, we'll have only 205/55R16 inch tires on IS250 RWD, while we get 215/45ZR17 inch on IS200.
Does not sound as good news for me.
And according to what I've read on lexus.ca, we'll have only 205/55R16 inch tires on IS250 RWD, while we get 215/45ZR17 inch on IS200.
Does not sound as good news for me.
I'm not sure about IS 350 in Spain, they talk about IS250 and IS22d, I tought we'll get IS350 too.
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From: europe
Originally Posted by TED_FR
Since it looks like we won't get the IS350 in France and that the IS300 will be gone by then, the top of the range for us will be a 201 hp IS250. That's damn low!
And according to what I've read on lexus.ca, we'll have only 205/55R16 inch tires on IS250 RWD, while we get 215/45ZR17 inch on IS200.
Does not sound as good news for me.
And according to what I've read on lexus.ca, we'll have only 205/55R16 inch tires on IS250 RWD, while we get 215/45ZR17 inch on IS200.
Does not sound as good news for me.
I think that 204 hp and 250 Nm sounds good for the IS 250. This car will be much faster than the current IS 200 and considerably cheaper than the IS 300.
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Originally Posted by UDel
There was an ongoing debate if the G35 coupe was really putting out 280hp or 20hp more then the sedan. Many people dynoed the 2 cars and the coupe was only coming up a few horsepower more and nowhere near 20. Automatic coupes and sedans were usaully getting the same 0-60 and some people thought the sedan felt faster. The sedan maybe a little lighter I believe or it maybe the older Acura TL was lighter compared to the CL I was thinking of. Some people also speculate that the newer 2.2 liter in the S2000 was underated and put out more like 250-260hp from some dyno numbers. I never heard about the SC300 being overrated in hp. Did the 2nd Gen GS300 220hp come out to be overrated?
The thing about the G35s more hp is, 18 more hp in the coupe is not even a 10% increase. You won't feel any difference in ANY car with a small bump in power like that. And with less low-end torque, the in your seat feeling will be nothing. The car was already swift. I think people see "300hp" and just get excited.
The VQ Maxima owners I think had a pettion against NIssan b/c their cars were not making the 255hp claimed in the 5th gen. The Altima was making equal power with a 240hp rating.
The anniverary 350Z makes 300hp but it seems in tests its the same thing, you can't tell any difference in power. Its really a nice "paper" bump to keep people interested in the car during the end of its product cycle.
I don't know why people are so caught up in peak power. It is VERy rare to drive in that rev range. What is important is, is the gearing matched with low RPM power/torque. That is where you drive most.
I would figure most luxury car owners drive under 3000RPM at 70mph.