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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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YWW, that warranty is great! Love Lexus! If the mileage is in the 30's its fabulous imo for a rollout hybrid SUV model.
Is that tax adjustment a deduction or credit? If it is only a deduction you need to factor your marginal tax bracket and reduce the deduction amount by the difference, I believe.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 11:35 PM
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I personally believe that the hybrid RX is going to be one of the most significant cars in automotive history. A number of forum members are complaining that the improvement in mileage doesn't justify all the hoopla. Let's remember that mileage improvements in the SUV segment have been minimal at best over the past 5 years. Lexus is about to release a no-compromise luxury SUV that gets 50% better highway mileage and 72% better city mileage; it also outperforms the current RX. This is a revolutionary automobile. Other hybrids (Prius etc.) appeal to a very small market segment. The 400h will likely be on the shopping list of everyone looking for an SUV in this price range. The 400h is going to redefine the automobile as we know it. Just my 2 cents.
Indeed. It will take not just here but EUROPE by storm. They deal with 4-5$ a gallon gas prices. That is why diesal is so popular there. This hybrid finally gives Lexus a solid chance overseas.
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by parula
YWW, that warranty is great! Love Lexus! If the mileage is in the 30's its fabulous imo for a rollout hybrid SUV model.
Is that tax adjustment a deduction or credit? If it is only a deduction you need to factor your marginal tax bracket and reduce the deduction amount by the difference, I believe.
It's a deduction if certified as the Prius is.

http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/...114001,00.html

Make the GVW of 6001lbs and the whole thing can be deducted under sect 179(for all you business owners).

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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 05:52 AM
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Nice article in the Phila. Inquirer, front page Automotive section, this morning puts the 400H at 32 mpg and 270 horsepower!
If the price is kept reasonable who among us would not want this car!
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 08:04 AM
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As a lifelong Corvette driver, I never thought I would be excited about an SUV, but the 400h really has me on the edge of my seat! A luxury SUV with good gas mileage, very low emissions, better pickup than the standard engine, and all for only 3-5k more than the standard SUV? I can't wait!
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by JRB
I would agree with this, as long as the power delivery is smooth when driving around town and the ride/handling doesn't take a hit due to the extra weight. On paper, the benefits seem revolutionary and hopefully there will not be any drawbacks in terms of the way it drives.

If there are no disadvantages and a supply problem develops due to overwhelming demand, you would expect all pricing to be strictly MSRP. This could widen the "real world" pricing differential between the 400h and RX330 especially if dealers aggressively discount the RX330 which will be in its second year. Most buyers will evaluate whether the extra premium paid upfront for the hybrid will ever be recouped due to its lower operating costs and expected higher resale value. However a certain (unknown) percentage will just want it to be "green" and will pay a good deal more regardless of how much extra it costs, in which case there could be long waiting lists and dealer manadatory "add ons" which will further widen the pricing premium. In any case it will be interesting to see what develops!
They claim in a chart I saw that the power delivery will be much smoother than the 330.

Also, where you say some buyers might buy it to be green, but others might not buy it because they cannot recap the costs. Don't forget the buyers that aren't considering themselves green, and won't see the fuel savings, will probably buy it because of the performance increase.
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by 2000gs300
gs 400h
Now ur talking.
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Hmmmm. Still dont' like the faux silver dash...the front bumper, well, I kinda like it. It gives the fog lights some aggressive character, although a bit Highlander-ish, but overall I like it.
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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That doesn't seem to be correct...
I agree. I will reserve judgement until the EPA estimates are officially released. I would be very dissapointed with 28mph unless it was a city estimate.

I was able to easily get just over 26mpg with my FWD RX300 on two-hour highway drives averaging 70mph.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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If it's 28 MPG City, that could mean 20-24 MPG Highway. That would be a real disappointment. Keep in mind that Hyrbids, like the Prius, are more efficient in the City then on the Highway because of the nature of the hybrid and the way it's electric motors are charged. (Meant motor not battery.)

Now if it's 28 MPG avg of City and Highway, then that probably would be 30-34 City, with the 22-26 Highway. Logically, this sounds accurate, assuming that an RX400H cruising the highway (essentially running almost exclusively on gas) would attain similar or slightly better fuel efficiency then a regular gasoline RX330.

Of course those who would cruise the highway in rush hour with the 400H should experience better fuel efficiency.

I am personally hoping more for a 30-32 avg MPG showing.

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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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The Hybrids get better gas mileage in the city because the electric motor is used more in the city. An electric motor can deliver its peak torque at extremely low RPM's compared to gas engines, but where it begins to run out of power is at higher speeds. That's where the gas engine starts to pickup the slack.

This is what I read anyway.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by RX300-BV
LexRX,

If it's 28 MPG City, that could mean 20-24 MPG Highway. That would be a real disappointment. Keep in mind that Hyrbids, like the Prius, are more efficient in the City then on the Highway because of the nature of the hybrid and the way it's electric motors are charged. (Meant motor not battery.)

Now if it's 28 MPG avg of City and Highway, then that probably would be 30-34 City, with the 22-26 Highway. Logically, this sounds accurate, assuming that an RX400H cruising the highway (essentially running almost exclusively on gas) would attain similar or slightly better fuel efficiency then a regular gasoline RX330.

Of course those who would cruise the highway in rush hour with the 400H should experience better fuel efficiency.

I am personally hoping more for a 30-32 avg MPG showing.
Based on other hybrids already out I doubt that the difference between city and highway will be that great. I bet the highway mileage will be something like 2-4 mpg less than the city.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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lexus claims 36 city 31 highway
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by Fastenator
lexus claims 36 city 31 highway
Where do they claim this?
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by JRB
Based on other hybrids already out I doubt that the difference between city and highway will be that great. I bet the highway mileage will be something like 2-4 mpg less than the city.
For bigger heavier vehicles the variance I would guess to be greater.
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