Who is considering buying an HS?
08-29-09, 08:22 PM
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Well, boys and girls, I like it. I like it a lot.
I drove "mine" this afternoon, and then another this evening at another dealer so I could get an idea of competitive pricing policies before doing the deal.
OK, it's not sporty and it's not exhilarating, but it is down right fun to drive. "Mine" is fully loaded with everything but the Levinson stereo which isn't on any cars delivered to the western region so far. It has an unbelievable array of toys at your fingertips, and it's a kick in the butt to be sitting there controlling all this stuff.
The ride is very nice. The noise level is fine. The acceleration is more than acceptable.
Back to the competitive part. . . neither dealer had any intention of dropping a penny off MSRP, and I get the impression that even my standard 5 to 6 hours of final sit down over the desk auto negotiation is not going to change that.
Anyone know what the Tier 1 money factor should be for this puppy on a 36 month lease? The first offer from these two today, sans negotiation was .00275 and .00245, but I'm thinking .00215 or less is were it should be.
Bottom line - I'm gonna do it
I drove "mine" this afternoon, and then another this evening at another dealer so I could get an idea of competitive pricing policies before doing the deal.
OK, it's not sporty and it's not exhilarating, but it is down right fun to drive. "Mine" is fully loaded with everything but the Levinson stereo which isn't on any cars delivered to the western region so far. It has an unbelievable array of toys at your fingertips, and it's a kick in the butt to be sitting there controlling all this stuff.
The ride is very nice. The noise level is fine. The acceleration is more than acceptable.
Back to the competitive part. . . neither dealer had any intention of dropping a penny off MSRP, and I get the impression that even my standard 5 to 6 hours of final sit down over the desk auto negotiation is not going to change that.
Anyone know what the Tier 1 money factor should be for this puppy on a 36 month lease? The first offer from these two today, sans negotiation was .00275 and .00245, but I'm thinking .00215 or less is were it should be.
Bottom line - I'm gonna do it
08-30-09, 03:24 PM
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So I went last night and picked mine up. Smokey Granite exterior with gray interior. There's so many settings/gadgets it's going to take a while to get used to everything. I like the mouse interface, it seemed natural and was very easy to pick up and start using. I wasn't wild about the exterior look of the car, but it's growing on me. I had considered the Silver Opal color since I liked it in the showroom, but they had one at the dealer (wasn't a Premium, so I didn't consider it), and the color did not look good outside, so I'm glad I didn't go that route.
The ride is comfortable, although the drive itself is a little on the boring side. This is my 100 mile a day commuter car, so that's fine. I guess I'm unfairly comparing the ride since my wife just bought an Audi TTS, so if I'm looking for fun, I'll steal her car for the day. The electric motor does have a "whine" to it that was louder than I hoped it would be, but it can be easily ignored with the help of the stereo. The ventilated seats are nice and powerful, although I wish this had come out earlier to help with the summer heat here in Louisiana.
I wasn't able to get them to come off of MSRP at all, I guess that's the penalty for being first in line.
The ride is comfortable, although the drive itself is a little on the boring side. This is my 100 mile a day commuter car, so that's fine. I guess I'm unfairly comparing the ride since my wife just bought an Audi TTS, so if I'm looking for fun, I'll steal her car for the day. The electric motor does have a "whine" to it that was louder than I hoped it would be, but it can be easily ignored with the help of the stereo. The ventilated seats are nice and powerful, although I wish this had come out earlier to help with the summer heat here in Louisiana.
I wasn't able to get them to come off of MSRP at all, I guess that's the penalty for being first in line.
08-30-09, 08:48 PM
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So I went last night and picked mine up. Smokey Granite exterior with gray interior. There's so many settings/gadgets it's going to take a while to get used to everything. I like the mouse interface, it seemed natural and was very easy to pick up and start using. I wasn't wild about the exterior look of the car, but it's growing on me. I had considered the Silver Opal color since I liked it in the showroom, but they had one at the dealer (wasn't a Premium, so I didn't consider it), and the color did not look good outside, so I'm glad I didn't go that route.
The ride is comfortable, although the drive itself is a little on the boring side. This is my 100 mile a day commuter car, so that's fine. I guess I'm unfairly comparing the ride since my wife just bought an Audi TTS, so if I'm looking for fun, I'll steal her car for the day. The electric motor does have a "whine" to it that was louder than I hoped it would be, but it can be easily ignored with the help of the stereo. The ventilated seats are nice and powerful, although I wish this had come out earlier to help with the summer heat here in Louisiana.
I wasn't able to get them to come off of MSRP at all, I guess that's the penalty for being first in line.
The ride is comfortable, although the drive itself is a little on the boring side. This is my 100 mile a day commuter car, so that's fine. I guess I'm unfairly comparing the ride since my wife just bought an Audi TTS, so if I'm looking for fun, I'll steal her car for the day. The electric motor does have a "whine" to it that was louder than I hoped it would be, but it can be easily ignored with the help of the stereo. The ventilated seats are nice and powerful, although I wish this had come out earlier to help with the summer heat here in Louisiana.
I wasn't able to get them to come off of MSRP at all, I guess that's the penalty for being first in line.
09-27-09, 02:01 PM
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My nav wants to trade-in her RX350 and "go green". Myself, I am not too sure, the outside looks has to grow on me over time, for now the front reeks too much of Ford Fusion. Did get to see one close-up and the interior is pretty nice.
09-28-09, 11:52 AM
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No Way
After my poor experience with the first model year of the 3rd generation GS
(2005), there's no way I would buy any Lexus, especially one with all the HS's new technology, until at least the second model year.
(2005), there's no way I would buy any Lexus, especially one with all the HS's new technology, until at least the second model year.
10-08-09, 11:14 AM
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The infotainment system is quite importantto
me and it seems that Lexus has not kept up with the competiton.
Your thoughts?
10-08-09, 12:10 PM
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To me, the interface worked fine, and I was very pleased with its response (the thing that bugs me more actually are iPod quality issues on some models). The lockout is the same, that hasn't changed, so I'm not wasting my time complaining about it--what I wish though was the USB connection was in a better spot (on the HS 250h IIRC it is).
However, for a different user they might have completely different expectations and desires...just like in your thread wondering about Lexus' tech falling behind, has users completely disliking Remote Touch, and wanting more advanced Bluetooth streaming, when others might have a different opinion. Trying in person, you might be able to draw conclusions and suggestions that could prove worthwhile.
The HS 250h has a technical focus of a different kind...it has infotainment but the tech sell is also in features besides that, which no other cars have, so it's a question of what one prioritizes.
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10-09-09, 08:53 AM
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You know, while it's useful to hear it second-hand from other users, each with their own set of priorities, it is also helpful to form your own conclusions in person...I've mentioned personally bringing an iPod to interface with an RX 350 at a dealership, to test it out (the salesman said it was the first time he'd actually observed the connection in action).
To me, the interface worked fine, and I was very pleased with its response (the thing that bugs me more actually are iPod quality issues on some models). The lockout is the same, that hasn't changed, so I'm not wasting my time complaining about it--what I wish though was the USB connection was in a better spot (on the HS 250h IIRC it is).
However, for a different user they might have completely different expectations and desires...just like in your thread wondering about Lexus' tech falling behind, has users completely disliking Remote Touch, and wanting more advanced Bluetooth streaming, when others might have a different opinion. Trying in person, you might be able to draw conclusions and suggestions that could prove worthwhile.
The HS 250h has a technical focus of a different kind...it has infotainment but the tech sell is also in features besides that, which no other cars have, so it's a question of what one prioritizes.
To me, the interface worked fine, and I was very pleased with its response (the thing that bugs me more actually are iPod quality issues on some models). The lockout is the same, that hasn't changed, so I'm not wasting my time complaining about it--what I wish though was the USB connection was in a better spot (on the HS 250h IIRC it is).
However, for a different user they might have completely different expectations and desires...just like in your thread wondering about Lexus' tech falling behind, has users completely disliking Remote Touch, and wanting more advanced Bluetooth streaming, when others might have a different opinion. Trying in person, you might be able to draw conclusions and suggestions that could prove worthwhile.
The HS 250h has a technical focus of a different kind...it has infotainment but the tech sell is also in features besides that, which no other cars have, so it's a question of what one prioritizes.
10-09-09, 09:37 AM
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... The whole point of the USB interface is that I shouldn't have to use the device itself to control, I can use the steering wheel or console, but it makes me want to plug in the Aux instead even though I'd much rather keep my hands on the wheel and eyes on the road. It's just annoying since most of the rest of the car is well designed and thought out, this seems to be an unfortunate exception.
10-09-09, 10:39 AM
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