should i buy new or pre owned
02-12-19, 07:49 AM
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02-12-19, 08:15 AM
#19
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your case is CLEAR CUT. i wud take the pre owned car.
yeah.. so here is where it gets dilemmatic.
but if u r in this situation where u see a 2 to 2.5 year old car with 20 k for 45 K
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...0046/overview/
and u can get the new one for 55-56K- assuming i can wrangle a 15-20% off MSRP.. then ?
might as well take a Brand NEW One ! which you will drive and maintain pristinely !.
yeah.. so here is where it gets dilemmatic.
but if u r in this situation where u see a 2 to 2.5 year old car with 20 k for 45 K
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...0046/overview/
and u can get the new one for 55-56K- assuming i can wrangle a 15-20% off MSRP.. then ?
might as well take a Brand NEW One ! which you will drive and maintain pristinely !.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...1862/overview/
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...9444/overview/
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jkutti2000 (02-12-19)
02-12-19, 08:20 AM
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Bad example since the used is not a luxury. This one is a 2014 Luxury for $33k with 65k miles. No accidents, all Lexus maintanence.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3982/overview/
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3982/overview/
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jkutti2000 (02-12-19)
02-12-19, 08:59 AM
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by offroading i didnt mean the whole 9 yards.. just some mild trails. - crossing 3-6 inches water creek -etc -
which obviosuly my SEDAN cant do.... at some ranches I visit 100 miles from Dallas.
hence i need all the 4X4 bells whistles and raising lowering. whatevr is standard..
its tragic that so many folks have this WONDERFUL GX model but really have never used it in some dirt roads to appreciate the way it easily works.
i took my friends luxury one and LOVED it.. just cuts through wherever u wanna go. 6-8 inch obstacles. NUTHING..!!
Also - I need towing capacity.. like 2-3000 lbs.. and GX is rated 5000 or somethnig in that range
HEY- I hope all LUXURY Models come with TOW PACKAGE.? adding one is a Pain in the A... later...
02-12-19, 10:43 AM
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thanks for the insightful information. but I should have been more specific..
by offroading i didnt mean the whole 9 yards.. just some mild trails. - crossing 3-6 inches water creek -etc -
which obviosuly my SEDAN cant do.... at some ranches I visit 100 miles from Dallas.
hence i need all the 4X4 bells whistles and raising lowering. whatevr is standard..
its tragic that so many folks have this WONDERFUL GX model but really have never used it in some dirt roads to appreciate the way it easily works.
i took my friends luxury one and LOVED it.. just cuts through wherever u wanna go. 6-8 inch obstacles. NUTHING..!!
Also - I need towing capacity.. like 2-3000 lbs.. and GX is rated 5000 or somethnig in that range
HEY- I hope all LUXURY Models come with TOW PACKAGE.? adding one is a Pain in the A... later...
by offroading i didnt mean the whole 9 yards.. just some mild trails. - crossing 3-6 inches water creek -etc -
which obviosuly my SEDAN cant do.... at some ranches I visit 100 miles from Dallas.
hence i need all the 4X4 bells whistles and raising lowering. whatevr is standard..
its tragic that so many folks have this WONDERFUL GX model but really have never used it in some dirt roads to appreciate the way it easily works.
i took my friends luxury one and LOVED it.. just cuts through wherever u wanna go. 6-8 inch obstacles. NUTHING..!!
Also - I need towing capacity.. like 2-3000 lbs.. and GX is rated 5000 or somethnig in that range
HEY- I hope all LUXURY Models come with TOW PACKAGE.? adding one is a Pain in the A... later...
02-12-19, 11:49 AM
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02-12-19, 03:43 PM
#25
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2018s are basically all gone, a couple exist, but either the dealership is difficult to work with, are demos, or unlisted on popular sites.
In your situation where you have narrowed it down to a GX, pricing is variable and towing is of utmost importance
You can step into a non-luxury and maybe add helper springs (air bags that are inflated via an aux pump in the coil similar to a prado setup) or even Timbrens that some folks have starting installing (check the main forums of the GX).
Pricing wise if you have access to Manheim vehicles prices + finders fee from a dealer friend, you can forgo the private party/second hand market markup these vehicles have and come out on ahead. For everyone else, your gonna be hard pressed to find a vehicle thats better then when the new vehicles were pushing 20% discounts.
TL : DR
Value Per $
MMR Price + finders fee from your dealer connect >20% New GX >Second Hand GX from private party/regular used car
In your situation where you have narrowed it down to a GX, pricing is variable and towing is of utmost importance
You can step into a non-luxury and maybe add helper springs (air bags that are inflated via an aux pump in the coil similar to a prado setup) or even Timbrens that some folks have starting installing (check the main forums of the GX).
Pricing wise if you have access to Manheim vehicles prices + finders fee from a dealer friend, you can forgo the private party/second hand market markup these vehicles have and come out on ahead. For everyone else, your gonna be hard pressed to find a vehicle thats better then when the new vehicles were pushing 20% discounts.
TL : DR
Value Per $
MMR Price + finders fee from your dealer connect >20% New GX >Second Hand GX from private party/regular used car
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jkutti2000 (02-13-19)
02-13-19, 08:25 AM
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2018s are basically all gone, a couple exist, but either the dealership is difficult to work with, are demos, or unlisted on popular sites.
In your situation where you have narrowed it down to a GX, pricing is variable and towing is of utmost importance
You can step into a non-luxury and maybe add helper springs (air bags that are inflated via an aux pump in the coil similar to a prado setup) or even Timbrens that some folks have starting installing (check the main forums of the GX).
Pricing wise if you have access to Manheim vehicles prices + finders fee from a dealer friend, you can forgo the private party/second hand market markup these vehicles have and come out on ahead. For everyone else, your gonna be hard pressed to find a vehicle thats better then when the new vehicles were pushing 20% discounts.
TL : DR
Value Per $
MMR Price + finders fee from your dealer connect >20% New GX >Second Hand GX from private party/regular used car
In your situation where you have narrowed it down to a GX, pricing is variable and towing is of utmost importance
You can step into a non-luxury and maybe add helper springs (air bags that are inflated via an aux pump in the coil similar to a prado setup) or even Timbrens that some folks have starting installing (check the main forums of the GX).
Pricing wise if you have access to Manheim vehicles prices + finders fee from a dealer friend, you can forgo the private party/second hand market markup these vehicles have and come out on ahead. For everyone else, your gonna be hard pressed to find a vehicle thats better then when the new vehicles were pushing 20% discounts.
TL : DR
Value Per $
MMR Price + finders fee from your dealer connect >20% New GX >Second Hand GX from private party/regular used car
.. you must be an analytic algorithm MODELER!.
option1: Manheim. dealer. lemme see..- seems to not respond when i call. if not
option 2 is 15-20% git me NEW if not
option 3: PP seller autotrader.. usual.. pre own. hassle.
02-13-19, 11:47 AM
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02-13-19, 11:50 AM
#28
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Stock cooler is in the radiator... if you want an external air cooler you will have to go 3rd party.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gx-...l#post10182310
Lots of quick links here.
https://lexusgxor.com/
"a small unit built into the radiator. Canadian top tier models have a supplemental air cooler mounted on the front driver side of radiator"
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gx-...l#post10182310
Lots of quick links here.
https://lexusgxor.com/
"a small unit built into the radiator. Canadian top tier models have a supplemental air cooler mounted on the front driver side of radiator"
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GX763 (02-14-19)
02-18-19, 02:03 PM
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thanks for the insightful information. but I should have been more specific..
by offroading i didnt mean the whole 9 yards.. just some mild trails. - crossing 3-6 inches water creek -etc -
which obviosuly my SEDAN cant do.... at some ranches I visit 100 miles from Dallas.
hence i need all the 4X4 bells whistles and raising lowering. whatevr is standard..
its tragic that so many folks have this WONDERFUL GX model but really have never used it in some dirt roads to appreciate the way it easily works.
i took my friends luxury one and LOVED it.. just cuts through wherever u wanna go. 6-8 inch obstacles. NUTHING..!!
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by offroading i didnt mean the whole 9 yards.. just some mild trails. - crossing 3-6 inches water creek -etc -
which obviosuly my SEDAN cant do.... at some ranches I visit 100 miles from Dallas.
hence i need all the 4X4 bells whistles and raising lowering. whatevr is standard..
its tragic that so many folks have this WONDERFUL GX model but really have never used it in some dirt roads to appreciate the way it easily works.
i took my friends luxury one and LOVED it.. just cuts through wherever u wanna go. 6-8 inch obstacles. NUTHING..!!
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I was looking at the luxury edition for the same reason, but the air lift actually decreases your approach angle because you are only raising the rear.
And it you plan on lifting it, you will likely lose that function anyway unless you add a very short spacer.
In other words, it is basically useless for off roading (and will actually make it worse when raised in the rear) unless you are trying to raise the rear bumper a tiny bit coming off a ledge to keep it from scratching. You are better off with a Range Rover or Grand Cherokee if that is a must have feature for you.
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