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2013 - Base - Added Crawl
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2018 Luxury (stock Crawl)- Added MTS
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DAC versus Crawl Control

Old 02-25-18, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BA777 View Post
Thank you for all your hard work and follow-thru to prove out this mod. You rock!

Just pull the trigger and ordered 859A1-60040 (Driving Support switch control computer). Hopefully, I should receive the module in a week.I have the 2016 GX460 Luxury /w Driver support. Going to install the module and do the zero point calibration. Will update everyone with the result.
Actually adding that module shouldn't require any resets it should be plug and play. You already have Driver Support so the big technical piece is already done. Whoever gets MTS working first on the '14+ will be trailblazer for the refresh models.... that is still untested but all data points to that being the module version that should work for '14+
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Originally Posted by Acrad35751 View Post
Actually adding that module shouldn't require any resets it should be plug and play. You already have Driver Support so the big technical piece is already done. Whoever gets MTS working first on the '14+ will be trailblazer for the refresh models.... that is still untested but all data points to that being the module version that should work for '14+
Yeah was not sure about the reset. But will definitely swap out the module and give it a try first.
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I'd pick up a trim and molding kit if you don't already have one. Anything to help avoid a potential scratch. Earlier in thread are some FSM example on how to remove most parts.

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bbqsoup: Saw the Facebook post... hopefully this doesn't mean remaining stock of console switches are whatever is left in North Ameriacn Lexus dealer inventory.

PN: 84970-60070

Now have a report that Carmarka and Megazip have now told a person that order cancelled "because the manufacturer discontinued the part"

Hopefully just superseded by a newer PN

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Originally Posted by Acrad35751 View Post
bbqsoup: Saw the Facebook post... hopefully this doesn't mean remaining stock of console switches are whatever is left in North Ameriacn Lexus dealer inventory.

PN: 84970-60070

Now have a report that Carmarka and Megazip have now told a person that order cancelled "because the manufacturer discontinued the part"

Hopefully just superseded by a newer PN
First, thanks a ton for blazing this trail! Im the guy that had my
order cancelled by Megazip. Im sure well find another option!



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Congrats on the huge find Acrad. Probably would not have been done without your research and the help of others. Welcome to the GXOR FB group btw, really active bunch. I just placed an order for the switches and the ecu through an US based dealership. Going to throw them into a 2010 base and will report back with my findings as soon as possible.
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I haven't driven with it on like this but looks like MTS "MUD & SAND" or snow for that matter can be run in 4H. I haven't tried turning on at speed but seems to be the only mode that doesn't require 4L and can apparently be used above 7 MPH unlike the other modes according to what I have seen in 4Runner forums.
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Originally Posted by Acrad35751 View Post
I haven't driven with it on like this but looks like MTS "MUD & SAND" or snow for that matter can be run in 4H. I haven't tried turning on at speed but seems to be the only mode that doesn't require 4L and can apparently be used above 7 MPH unlike the other modes according to what I have seen in 4Runner forums.
Is it confirmed that the crawl control switches are required to be able to run MTS?
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I'm only going off what I saw on the Prado forums but they reported that MTS would show up if Drive Support Computer was updated but wouldn't work because the crawl profile wasn't active in the skid control ECU. Of course you need the console switch to activate crawl.

For the real adventurous some of the RU Prado users were doing some manual switches to activate it. If this works you are talking a really cheap mod.
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A few thoughts about MTS from 4Runner forum

"My understanding was that it just changes the sensitivity of the throttle and the traction control system."

"It also changes brake response. Normally there is a good amount of travel in the brake pedal when using MTS the travel is greatly decreased, which is really nice offroad"

"In MTS, it will allow more wheel spin before cutting throttle and applying brakes. Similarly, the ABS doesn't kick in and release the brakes when a wheel stops and digs in."

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Originally Posted by Acrad35751 View Post
I'm only going off what I saw on the Prado forums but they reported that MTS would show up if Drive Support Computer was updated but wouldn't work because the crawl profile wasn't active in the skid control ECU. Of course you need the console switch to activate crawl.

For the real adventurous some of the RU Prado users were doing some manual switches to activate it. If this works you are talking a really cheap mod.
OK, I figured as much. Just wondering because I have the ECU on the way but have not yet procured the CC switch.
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OK, I figured as much. Just wondering because I have the ECU on the way but have not yet procured the CC switch.

You could get that part of the install out of the way until you have the console switch.

If you look at schematic LG is being severed 13,14,15 are being allowed for use


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Originally Posted by Acrad35751 View Post
I haven't driven with it on like this but looks like MTS "MUD & SAND" or snow for that matter can be run in 4H. I haven't tried turning on at speed but seems to be the only mode that doesn't require 4L and can apparently be used above 7 MPH unlike the other modes according to what I have seen in 4Runner forums.
That's correct. MTS "Mud and Sand" mode is the only one can be utilize 4Hi setting. The rest of MTS mode requires 4Lo.
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Oh well megazip canceled the order so I ended up ordered it from a US dealer in Miami. Hope it's in stock LOL.
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Oh well megazip canceled the order so I ended up ordered it from a US dealer in Miami. Hope it's in stock LOL.
I ordered from magazip yesterday and just found one from a wrecking yard. When did you order from them? They havent cancel mine yet but if yours is earlier than mine, then I guess I have to look into getting the other one.
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