2010-2017 GX Regional Airbag Recall
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Airbag What Lexus will do for me
Northpark Lexus, San Antonio will provide me a midsized loaner car. My 2011 GX460 will have to sit parked in my garage for the duration. Mileage will be recorded per the rental agreement. I mentioned that we use our GX on weekends to haul our boat to the lake, they said sorry and I could file a claim if I wanted. Unsure what to do at this point, I sure don't like the idea of my GX sitting for up to 6 months.
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Northpark Lexus, San Antonio will provide me a midsized loaner car. My 2011 GX460 will have to sit parked in my garage for the duration. Mileage will be recorded per the rental agreement. I mentioned that we use our GX on weekends to haul our boat to the lake, they said sorry and I could file a claim if I wanted. Unsure what to do at this point, I sure don't like the idea of my GX sitting for up to 6 months.
However if you make a fuss or put in a claim I bet they would get you something bigger. I think the tow rating on this Rav4 is about 1,500 lbs I'm pretty sure Toyota rents Tacomas and Tundras but they also might be able to source you a pickup from a 3rd party like enterprise.
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In my loaner
My Lexus dealer said they would provide me with a rental from a nearby Enterprise dealership. The allowance was basically enough to cover the cost of a "full size" rental or small SUV. The rental agency worked with me and I ended up with a Ford Explorer....not quite the Lexus, but impressive on the technology front. Of course when I got the rental, I also signed away the Lexus and it is now relegated to gathering dust in my garage.
The interaction with Lexus was interesting. Originally an individual responsible for the recall locally, called me and said it would be a "few months" before a replacement airbag is available; however, when I went into the dealership and met with my normal Service Adviser, I asked about the expected time frame and he said I should plan on "at least five months". They are being told the first of the year. At least I can plan accordingly and cancel my XM radio, etc.
This is an extraordinarily wide spread problem, but it seems Lexus is doing a decent job of managing it.
The interaction with Lexus was interesting. Originally an individual responsible for the recall locally, called me and said it would be a "few months" before a replacement airbag is available; however, when I went into the dealership and met with my normal Service Adviser, I asked about the expected time frame and he said I should plan on "at least five months". They are being told the first of the year. At least I can plan accordingly and cancel my XM radio, etc.
This is an extraordinarily wide spread problem, but it seems Lexus is doing a decent job of managing it.
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My Lexus dealer said they would provide me with a rental from a nearby Enterprise dealership. The allowance was basically enough to cover the cost of a "full size" rental or small SUV. The rental agency worked with me and I ended up with a Ford Explorer....not quite the Lexus, but impressive on the technology front. Of course when I got the rental, I also signed away the Lexus and it is now relegated to gathering dust in my garage.
The interaction with Lexus was interesting. Originally an individual responsible for the recall locally, called me and said it would be a "few months" before a replacement airbag is available; however, when I went into the dealership and met with my normal Service Adviser, I asked about the expected time frame and he said I should plan on "at least five months". They are being told the first of the year. At least I can plan accordingly and cancel my XM radio, etc.
This is an extraordinarily wide spread problem, but it seems Lexus is doing a decent job of managing it.
The interaction with Lexus was interesting. Originally an individual responsible for the recall locally, called me and said it would be a "few months" before a replacement airbag is available; however, when I went into the dealership and met with my normal Service Adviser, I asked about the expected time frame and he said I should plan on "at least five months". They are being told the first of the year. At least I can plan accordingly and cancel my XM radio, etc.
This is an extraordinarily wide spread problem, but it seems Lexus is doing a decent job of managing it.
Yeah initially it was "two or three months" but by the time I was actually going to get the rental it was "possibly six months."
The new Explorers are pretty nice these days. Toyota rental says they have to swap me into a different vehicle after 90 days. I'm going to push for a Highlander next time.
#35
Takata Airbags in 2017 GX460
So if you buy an early production 2017 GX460 make sure you have a deal to get the airbags replaced before accepting. What a way to kill sales.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...bags/89233386/
Despite more than 28 million Takata airbag inflators being recalled in the U.S., some automakers are still using them in new cars.
These are bags with propellant known to degrade over time, which can lead to the airbags rupturing at excessive force in a crash and spewing the car's occupants with shrapnel. So far, 10 people in the U.S. have died as a result of these ruptured airbags and more than 100 people have been injured.
The ammonium nitrate-based propellant that inflates the airbags can grow more unstable over time as moisture creeps in, especially in regions with high heat and humidity. To combat that, Takata added what's known as a desiccant, or a moisture absorber. Now, the federal government has told Takata it must stop making all inflators with ammonium nitrate as a propellant by the end of 2018.
It is unknown whether Takata's newer, desiccated inflators will eventually need to be recalled and replaced. But some automakers are still using bags that are considered more volatile:
: Other car producers...
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•Toyota: The 2016 Toyota 4Runner and 2016 Lexus GX 460 still use non-desiccated Takata inflators in the passenger-side frontal airbags for both SUVs. They are the last Toyota, Lexus or Scion vehicles to use such inflators, said Toyota spokesman Victor Vanov. Toyota will eliminate the inflators for the 2017 model year except for some early production GX 460s.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...bags/89233386/
Despite more than 28 million Takata airbag inflators being recalled in the U.S., some automakers are still using them in new cars.
These are bags with propellant known to degrade over time, which can lead to the airbags rupturing at excessive force in a crash and spewing the car's occupants with shrapnel. So far, 10 people in the U.S. have died as a result of these ruptured airbags and more than 100 people have been injured.
The ammonium nitrate-based propellant that inflates the airbags can grow more unstable over time as moisture creeps in, especially in regions with high heat and humidity. To combat that, Takata added what's known as a desiccant, or a moisture absorber. Now, the federal government has told Takata it must stop making all inflators with ammonium nitrate as a propellant by the end of 2018.
It is unknown whether Takata's newer, desiccated inflators will eventually need to be recalled and replaced. But some automakers are still using bags that are considered more volatile:
: Other car producers...
:
•Toyota: The 2016 Toyota 4Runner and 2016 Lexus GX 460 still use non-desiccated Takata inflators in the passenger-side frontal airbags for both SUVs. They are the last Toyota, Lexus or Scion vehicles to use such inflators, said Toyota spokesman Victor Vanov. Toyota will eliminate the inflators for the 2017 model year except for some early production GX 460s.
#36
I didn't know the recall went back this far. Long read of updates here...
http://blog.caranddriver.com/massive...cted-vehicles/
http://blog.caranddriver.com/massive...cted-vehicles/
#37
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I have a 2011 Acura TL since new that is now my middle sons car. I waited close to 4 months for the inflator to be replaced from when I was put on the waiting list.
Acura allowed me to keep the car at home and gave me a rental. I just had to sign a waiver saying the car wouldn't be driven except to the dealer. They also gave me the option of having it towed to the dealer when the part became available but I declined.
This Takata situation is a real mess, last I read close to 70 million vehicles are affected from numerous brands..
Acura allowed me to keep the car at home and gave me a rental. I just had to sign a waiver saying the car wouldn't be driven except to the dealer. They also gave me the option of having it towed to the dealer when the part became available but I declined.
This Takata situation is a real mess, last I read close to 70 million vehicles are affected from numerous brands..
Last edited by JT4; 09-23-16 at 04:42 AM.
#38
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You don't need to have a deal to get the airbag replaced before accepting. The airbag on a new vehicle isn't dangerous because there hasn't been enough time for the inflators to degrade. That's why they're allowed to sell the cars with the inflators to begin with. They are required to replace them later, no deal necessary, and by the time they degrade parts should be more accessible.
#39
I'm considering purchasing a 2010 GX460 which is currently registered in Utah and is not subject to the recall at this point.
I live in Minnesota. If I buy the GX and register it here, does anyone know if it will then be subject to the recall? If so, it would have to sit until sometime in 2017?
I live in Minnesota. If I buy the GX and register it here, does anyone know if it will then be subject to the recall? If so, it would have to sit until sometime in 2017?
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I'm considering purchasing a 2010 GX460 which is currently registered in Utah and is not subject to the recall at this point.
I live in Minnesota. If I buy the GX and register it here, does anyone know if it will then be subject to the recall? If so, it would have to sit until sometime in 2017?
I live in Minnesota. If I buy the GX and register it here, does anyone know if it will then be subject to the recall? If so, it would have to sit until sometime in 2017?
Also, sitting isn't mandatory. Some people are choosing that option out of precaution and to qualify for a rental. If you don't have anyone in your front passenger seat you shouldn't have a problem driving your car (once you're under the recall)
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I suppose I am not putting miles on my GX but I miss it.
I wish there was just some ballpark horizon out there for us. This could be 6 more months or a year for all we know right now.
#43
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Any News on the Recall Fix?
Just checking in to see if anyone has had the dealer "Fix" / replace the Takata airbag in their GX460 yet.
I received my recall letter back in July and have still yet to hear anything from Lexus or the dealer on a remedy...
I received my recall letter back in July and have still yet to hear anything from Lexus or the dealer on a remedy...
#44
Remove the airbag?
Last edited by tecman; 12-10-16 at 02:38 PM.
#45
I used to have 2011 Mercedes E350 with Takata Airbag recalled.
I received notification about recall from the Mercedes of USA in December 2015, until this year, Mercedes still had no parts to replace it. I was really concern driving that car since I heard and read so many news that even a small accident might cause airbag inflator to explode and kill driver and sometime whoever is behind it.
Local Mercedes dealer refused to offer a rental and call to Mercedes of USA left it also at nowhere and year after recall was announced, I decided to sell that car even thought I really liked it.
That airbag recall is a mess beyond believes and many manufactures are not in a rush to offer rental or short leases while we are driving affected cars.
I received notification about recall from the Mercedes of USA in December 2015, until this year, Mercedes still had no parts to replace it. I was really concern driving that car since I heard and read so many news that even a small accident might cause airbag inflator to explode and kill driver and sometime whoever is behind it.
Local Mercedes dealer refused to offer a rental and call to Mercedes of USA left it also at nowhere and year after recall was announced, I decided to sell that car even thought I really liked it.
That airbag recall is a mess beyond believes and many manufactures are not in a rush to offer rental or short leases while we are driving affected cars.