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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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Question Aftermarket SUB in Factory Location

Hello All,

First of all, I searched and did not get any helpful hits. Searching "sub" does not meet the criteria. If someone can point me in the right direction, then that will be great.

So, i am looking for an aftermarket solution for our factory sub location in my 2GS.

What type of sub do you recommend? If this needs to be moved to the audio section, please kindly do so.

Thank you

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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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This is something that has been covered a lot in the audio section, I'll try to look for the link. However; don't waste your money, no matter what kind or how expensive free air subs are, they all suck. Nothing like a sub in a box, otherwise stay with the oem set up.
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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A few guys and building boxes against the rear deck, making a sealed box for the sub still in its stock location. I'm thinkin' the same... FA subs are no good, and change sound with amount of crap in your trunk.
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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yea dont go free air,
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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free air sucks.
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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You can check JL IB series and kicker comp. You can also get a mold like the ones used for Marine applications...

Some of the IB series only needs small cubes so you can build the box and attach it to the original spot. You'll need some skills and dampening kit to prevent rattles.

One sub is enough for me... I'm just going to replace the factory sub with some cheap kickers.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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In the past, in my teens and early twenties, I had numerous systems with multiple high quality subs running 600watt rms amps with capacitors etc. but now I am older and prefer trunk space to tons of bass. I would feel pretty embarrassed to be listening to music that loud anyway.

To my point, many of you have said free air sucks and I would agree that a sealed enclosure is ideal, however trunk space already is already minimal in the GS. I previously had a 00 GS3 with a 10" MTX thunder 8000 screwed into the back panel with 20+ screws running off a small 150w MTX amp along with the factory powered doors/tweets and it sounded really good. It had plenty of clean ~50hz, bass for my taste.

My current 98 GS4 with the Nakamichi sub leaves plenty to be desired in this dept and sounds as if it is playing 100hz and up. Anyone know what kind of wattage this sub is getting and if it is even crossed over? I am guessing maybe 60w rms and no crossover.

Any ideas what would make this sound better? I don't want to replace the sub if the amp output is too low and not running a low pass xover. I may just dynamat the rear parcel shelf really good as I had good results doing this in a Maxima with the BOSE system in the past.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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im gonna run a 12" shallow mount pioneer ts-sw1241d and run a small box under it but out of the way as our factory sub is a 10" and the box should help produce some extra bass. it will fit in the oem location btw
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There is a company that offered at one point in time a couple different setups for 2GS owners, one of those being a free air replacement setup the other a customer trunk box.

I know that the company has a spotty history on various automotive forums so I'll PM you the information so this thread doesn't get out of control or locked for name dropping.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ceelo
There is a company that offered at one point in time a couple different setups for 2GS owners, one of those being a free air replacement setup the other a customer trunk box.

I know that the company has a spotty history on various automotive forums so I'll PM you the information so this thread doesn't get out of control or locked for name dropping.
i guess im nosy and curious im gonna pm as i wanna know. i got a feeling but i want a confirmation
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ceelo
There is a company that offered at one point in time a couple different setups for 2GS owners, one of those being a free air replacement setup the other a customer trunk box.

I know that the company has a spotty history on various automotive forums so I'll PM you the information so this thread doesn't get out of control or locked for name dropping.
That is silly. If they have pissed people off then that's on them.

I believe you are talking about Elemental Designs - http://www.edesignaudio.com/index.php?cPath=1_78_117



I made my own IB setup similar to theirs using one of their subs. It sounded Just Oaky, not good, not bad.

Mine:


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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Debonair
That is silly. If they have pissed people off then that's on them.
I believe you are talking about Elemental Designs - http://www.edesignaudio.com/index.php?cPath=1_78_117
hahahaha yeah thats who i thought he was referring too
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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That's them . I didn't want to get any feathers ruffled. I believe they were a member or sponsor on here at one time or another but no longer. They also made a pretty ugly exit from bimmerforums a couple years ago when I was on there as well.

Either love em or you hate em I guess.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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I will need to replace my stock ml sub also. It started to tear this past year and I did the silicone trick for now, but im pretty sure it will give out soon. Im looking here for some ideas
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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Get a KICKER VR 10. thats what I have. it kicks, its on a old school punch 60
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