Takeda intake - is there power loss?
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Item should be available to ship on 02-20-2022.
So looks like it may be a drop shipment direct from Takeda(or their distributor).
Some advice from experience for those wanting to install this system.
Make sure during installation, that the secondary air intake flap is closed when fitting the filter element. There is a slight issue with clearance between the flap and filter nose.
If you install the element with the flap open, it will not close when it has to and hence you will face issues with either low-end performance and/or CEL.
The secondary flap is usually open when the car is off and closes on startup.
So if you close the flap and install the element, the flap will be able to open and close underneath the element and not get stuck in the open position above the element nose.
That should eliminate any issues.
Make sure during installation, that the secondary air intake flap is closed when fitting the filter element. There is a slight issue with clearance between the flap and filter nose.
If you install the element with the flap open, it will not close when it has to and hence you will face issues with either low-end performance and/or CEL.
The secondary flap is usually open when the car is off and closes on startup.
So if you close the flap and install the element, the flap will be able to open and close underneath the element and not get stuck in the open position above the element nose.
That should eliminate any issues.
This is one of the only intakes that looks tacky AF to me (it's the fake looking carbon fiber box), why did they do this?? Numerous people posted before that this does actually net you loss in torque down low.
You aren't really going to make any power increase with a intake. If you want something nice, get a CF intake tube. I did a Tom's only because I wanted CF under the hood (I know it will provide zero extra power/noise..etc.).
However, my money in on the Lexus/Toyota engineers who probably spent millions of dollars on the R&D and engineering hours developing an intake that is superior to a Takeda... Take that for what it is, but that's my thought on it.
-Nigel
You aren't really going to make any power increase with a intake. If you want something nice, get a CF intake tube. I did a Tom's only because I wanted CF under the hood (I know it will provide zero extra power/noise..etc.).
However, my money in on the Lexus/Toyota engineers who probably spent millions of dollars on the R&D and engineering hours developing an intake that is superior to a Takeda... Take that for what it is, but that's my thought on it.
-Nigel
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This is one of the only intakes that looks tacky AF to me (it's the fake looking carbon fiber box), why did they do this?? Numerous people posted before that this does actually net you loss in torque down low.
You aren't really going to make any power increase with a intake. If you want something nice, get a CF intake tube. I did a Tom's only because I wanted CF under the hood (I know it will provide zero extra power/noise..etc.).
However, my money in on the Lexus/Toyota engineers who probably spent millions of dollars on the R&D and engineering hours developing an intake that is superior to a Takeda... Take that for what it is, but that's my thought on it.
-Nigel
You aren't really going to make any power increase with a intake. If you want something nice, get a CF intake tube. I did a Tom's only because I wanted CF under the hood (I know it will provide zero extra power/noise..etc.).
However, my money in on the Lexus/Toyota engineers who probably spent millions of dollars on the R&D and engineering hours developing an intake that is superior to a Takeda... Take that for what it is, but that's my thought on it.
-Nigel
Steve
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When I first got my car I think I read every thread on intakes, because at first I did actually like how the Takeda looked, but didn't realize it upon closer pictures that the box was just a fake cf pattern. I might have them all bookmarked on my laptop that i'll have to go through.
In the end I'm still a believer that Lexus/Toyota knows more than Takeda when it comes to intake design and have spent far more money with R&D.
-Nigel
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I'd have to dig through stuff again. But I remember someone on the RCF group posted about it with a picture, and also on the FB groups. I do also remembering people saying that when they disconnected the vacuum line to keep the flapper valve open to have a louder intake noise, that low end torque was lost as well, which makes sense.
When I first got my car I think I read every thread on intakes, because at first I did actually like how the Takeda looked, but didn't realize it upon closer pictures that the box was just a fake cf pattern. I might have them all bookmarked on my laptop that i'll have to go through.
In the end I'm still a believer that Lexus/Toyota knows more than Takeda when it comes to intake design and have spent far more money with R&D.
-Nigel
When I first got my car I think I read every thread on intakes, because at first I did actually like how the Takeda looked, but didn't realize it upon closer pictures that the box was just a fake cf pattern. I might have them all bookmarked on my laptop that i'll have to go through.
In the end I'm still a believer that Lexus/Toyota knows more than Takeda when it comes to intake design and have spent far more money with R&D.
-Nigel
Steve
The Takeda design is the same as stock except they use a cone style filter to provide more surface area for the filtering material vs. Lexus, which uses a flat filter. Other than that, there is really no difference. So the additional power may come from that (maybe) if it is a restriction. I don't see it losing power though over stock. It does sound good. Holding the vacuum butterfly open all of the time would also result in reduced low end power with the stock filter, so that isn't the Takeda's fault.
Steve
Steve
Only thing I can think of is the filter design and or the metal tube that might absorb heat and have heat soak?
I wasn't saying that people who lost power had the butterfly valve open for the Takeda system, it was just something I read where people have tried it on the stock system and it did loose low end torque, which makes sense. There are some posts floating on facebook F groups of people's experience though with the Takeda and there are more than a few people that removed the system because they did not like the performance numbers..
I like my Tom's bit, looks the part :-) Still wish Lexus would have made our freaking engine cover out of CF instead of that fake stuff... our cars aren't cheap. they could have done the real deal...
-Nigel
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