Why does the GS450h cost 13k more than GS350?
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Why does the GS450h cost 13k more than GS350?
Why does the GS450h (63k) cost 17k more than GS350 (50k)? The mpg is only 8 mpg better. What is better about the GS450h other than mpg?
Last edited by grayson73; 11-10-16 at 10:39 AM.
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The GS350/GS450h isn't like the ES350/ES300h comparison. The hybrid isn't just for fuel economy, it also provides more combined power. The 450h also gets more standard tech, in particular the triple LED headlights.
#4
Not having driven a 350 with a 6speed, the CvT is odd. Damn fast and the engine doesn't climb with the gears like a traditional setup. Just odd to get use to but I'm fine with it. The tech is amazing and that would apply to both 350 and 450 pending it's outfitting. Mileage is 32-34 and that is solely based on how I'm footed, heavy or light.
#5
Old topic, but it applies to your question: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/hyb...the-350-a.html
1. The car is extremely rare & starting is 2016 is basically "built to order" straight from the factory in Japan.
2. You're paying for the latest in hybrid technology. If you read up on the 2nd generation Lexus synergy hybrid system - there have been amazing advancement that have been made.
3. One word: Torque. Who cares about HP? Get a Ford Mustang GT for less than $35K that puts out 435hp if you just want numbers.
4. The hybrid comes with options that are not available on the GS350 (2013-2014 models.. it came with bamboo interior, bamboo steering wheel, bi-LED's, etc).
5. For those who enjoy the smoothness in acceleration and power delivery, the CVT is the ultimate in transmissions. Of course you'll have a "drone" sound since it's just one large variable gear depending on driving conditions.
Both are amazing cars - the premium you pay for the hybrid may definitely not be "worth it" to all. I would honestly try to drive both and then make a decision. It also depends on how long you plan to keep the car.
~ Im2bz2p345
1. The car is extremely rare & starting is 2016 is basically "built to order" straight from the factory in Japan.
2. You're paying for the latest in hybrid technology. If you read up on the 2nd generation Lexus synergy hybrid system - there have been amazing advancement that have been made.
3. One word: Torque. Who cares about HP? Get a Ford Mustang GT for less than $35K that puts out 435hp if you just want numbers.
4. The hybrid comes with options that are not available on the GS350 (2013-2014 models.. it came with bamboo interior, bamboo steering wheel, bi-LED's, etc).
5. For those who enjoy the smoothness in acceleration and power delivery, the CVT is the ultimate in transmissions. Of course you'll have a "drone" sound since it's just one large variable gear depending on driving conditions.
Both are amazing cars - the premium you pay for the hybrid may definitely not be "worth it" to all. I would honestly try to drive both and then make a decision. It also depends on how long you plan to keep the car.
~ Im2bz2p345
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Old topic, but it applies to your question: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/hyb...the-350-a.html
1. The car is extremely rare & starting is 2016 is basically "built to order" straight from the factory in Japan.
2. You're paying for the latest in hybrid technology. If you read up on the 2nd generation Lexus synergy hybrid system - there have been amazing advancement that have been made.
3. One word: Torque. Who cares about HP? Get a Ford Mustang GT for less than $35K that puts out 435hp if you just want numbers.
4. The hybrid comes with options that are not available on the GS350 (2013-2014 models.. it came with bamboo interior, bamboo steering wheel, bi-LED's, etc).
5. For those who enjoy the smoothness in acceleration and power delivery, the CVT is the ultimate in transmissions. Of course you'll have a "drone" sound since it's just one large variable gear depending on driving conditions.
Both are amazing cars - the premium you pay for the hybrid may definitely not be "worth it" to all. I would honestly try to drive both and then make a decision. It also depends on how long you plan to keep the car.
~ Im2bz2p345
1. The car is extremely rare & starting is 2016 is basically "built to order" straight from the factory in Japan.
2. You're paying for the latest in hybrid technology. If you read up on the 2nd generation Lexus synergy hybrid system - there have been amazing advancement that have been made.
3. One word: Torque. Who cares about HP? Get a Ford Mustang GT for less than $35K that puts out 435hp if you just want numbers.
4. The hybrid comes with options that are not available on the GS350 (2013-2014 models.. it came with bamboo interior, bamboo steering wheel, bi-LED's, etc).
5. For those who enjoy the smoothness in acceleration and power delivery, the CVT is the ultimate in transmissions. Of course you'll have a "drone" sound since it's just one large variable gear depending on driving conditions.
Both are amazing cars - the premium you pay for the hybrid may definitely not be "worth it" to all. I would honestly try to drive both and then make a decision. It also depends on how long you plan to keep the car.
~ Im2bz2p345
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I wouldn't worry about the reliability of a hybrid long term.
The brakes last much, much longer. The gas engine has had an easy life of being assisted by the electric motors, which themselves are very reliable. There is no starter or alternator to go out, no accessory drive belt, etc. The one variable is the battery, but more and more you can get good quality rebuilt ones at decent prices.
The brakes last much, much longer. The gas engine has had an easy life of being assisted by the electric motors, which themselves are very reliable. There is no starter or alternator to go out, no accessory drive belt, etc. The one variable is the battery, but more and more you can get good quality rebuilt ones at decent prices.
#11
If the 3GS hybrid is any indication for how the 4GS hybrid will last long term, the cars are built to go 200K miles easily without any "major" service except the hybrid battery replacement at 100K miles (the hybrids have a Lexus backed warranty up to 100K miles, but with the 3GSh, Lexus has been generous with owners goes over that limit & covering half or all of their replacement cost).
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/hybrid-technology-215/
If you're going to be keeping for a long time, you'll be saving more at the pump too of course.
If you've never owned a hybrid vehicle, I would highly recommend you read up & test drive one before buying. Just my advice though.
~ Im2bz2p345
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/hybrid-technology-215/
If you're going to be keeping for a long time, you'll be saving more at the pump too of course.
If you've never owned a hybrid vehicle, I would highly recommend you read up & test drive one before buying. Just my advice though.
~ Im2bz2p345
Last edited by Im2bz2p345; 11-14-16 at 12:10 PM.
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If the 3GS hybrid is any indication for how the 4GS hybrid will last long term, the cars are built to go 200K miles easily without any "major" service except the hybrid battery replacement at 100K miles (the hybrids have a Lexus backed warranty up to 100K miles, but with the 3GSh, Lexus has been generous with owners goes over that limit & covering half or all of their replacement cost).
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/hybrid-technology-215/
If you're going to be keeping for a long time, you'll be saving more at the pump too of course.
If you've never owned a hybrid vehicle, I would highly recommend you read up & test drive one before buying. Just me advice though.
~ Im2bz2p345
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/hybrid-technology-215/
If you're going to be keeping for a long time, you'll be saving more at the pump too of course.
If you've never owned a hybrid vehicle, I would highly recommend you read up & test drive one before buying. Just me advice though.
~ Im2bz2p345
#13
Similar to what JDR76 stated, I would guess the hybrid to have less wear & tear than the non-hybrid. It would be my preferred choice for long term ownership, but then again - I'm a hybrid owner, so I don't want to speak with a bias. Speaking generally - I believe hybrid owners drive a little less aggressive than non-hybrid owners (i.e. F-Sport cars might be tracked), so that helps out in the long run.
As I mentioned earlier, the only major cost you should have is the hybrid battery replacement cost.. and it's hard to predict when that will occur. I don't see the 4GS (hybrid or non-hybrid) having crazy high maintenance through it's life. These cars are pretty bulletproof.
Btw, this topic is about 5 years old and related to the CT200h, but it might be a good read for you: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ct-...d-vehicle.html
Hope this helps somewhat,
~ Im2bz2p345
Last edited by Im2bz2p345; 11-14-16 at 05:43 PM.
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Originally Posted by Im2bz2p345
Speaking generally - I believe hybrid owners drive a little less aggressive than non-hybrid owners (i.e. F-Sport cars might be tracked), so that helps out in the long run.
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