Sad Night Last Night
The 4GS has two cats correct? How much did it cost to replace the first time, and what did they quote you the second?
I was gonna say that I feel like you gave up on the car too easily. But if this is a bigger issue and they can't diagnose it correctly then I understand moving on.
I was gonna say that I feel like you gave up on the car too easily. But if this is a bigger issue and they can't diagnose it correctly then I understand moving on.
Yeah that all may be true but beyond the scope of what I wanted to deal with right now. The dealer pricing on the replacements wasn't worth it and having two go in that short period of time spooked me that I was in for something else next. Rational as that may be or not.
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@dmac250 sorry to see you leave the GS family. I had a similar experience with my 2GS - I fixed everything (2 cats, O2 sensors, suspension, repainted bumpers, etc.) until the 125k mark and the final straw was a broken heater core. The car was probably worth about $5000 if i sold it private party, but took $4000 from the dealer and eventually ended up in a '13 GS.
I've been there: the thought process ends up being "do I keep spending extra money on this aging car...no guarantee if I fix this problem, another won't pop up...or can I take that money and get into something newer with less headaches."
I think you made a good choice because as good a car the GS has been known to be...any car with 120k+ miles, no matter how well it was cared for, will have potential for more expense failures/repairs. Enjoy the ES and at least you stayed in the Lexus fam!
Btw: Did you consider getting a newer GS - maybe a 2019 or 2020?
I've been there: the thought process ends up being "do I keep spending extra money on this aging car...no guarantee if I fix this problem, another won't pop up...or can I take that money and get into something newer with less headaches."
I think you made a good choice because as good a car the GS has been known to be...any car with 120k+ miles, no matter how well it was cared for, will have potential for more expense failures/repairs. Enjoy the ES and at least you stayed in the Lexus fam!
Btw: Did you consider getting a newer GS - maybe a 2019 or 2020?
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@dmac250 sorry to see you leave the GS family. I had a similar experience with my 2GS - I fixed everything (2 cats, O2 sensors, suspension, repainted bumpers, etc.) until the 125k mark and the final straw was a broken heater core. The car was probably worth about $5000 if i sold it private party, but took $4000 from the dealer and eventually ended up in a '13 GS.
I've been there: the thought process ends up being "do I keep spending extra money on this aging car...no guarantee if I fix this problem, another won't pop up...or can I take that money and get into something newer with less headaches."
I think you made a good choice because as good a car the GS has been known to be...any car with 120k+ miles, no matter how well it was cared for, will have potential for more expense failures/repairs. Enjoy the ES and at least you stayed in the Lexus fam!
Btw: Did you consider getting a newer GS - maybe a 2019 or 2020?
I've been there: the thought process ends up being "do I keep spending extra money on this aging car...no guarantee if I fix this problem, another won't pop up...or can I take that money and get into something newer with less headaches."
I think you made a good choice because as good a car the GS has been known to be...any car with 120k+ miles, no matter how well it was cared for, will have potential for more expense failures/repairs. Enjoy the ES and at least you stayed in the Lexus fam!
Btw: Did you consider getting a newer GS - maybe a 2019 or 2020?
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Resale value goes down quite significantly on any luxury cars when the miles rack up. People who would pay top dollars for a Lexus are after low milage. Plus the additional annoying things that goes wrong as well which I rather avoid as life is busy.
I tend to not keep cars over 60k miles, our RX has gone just past 60k miles and will be on the lookout for a newer car. Also, it's good to experience driving different cars. E.g. I've driven 2 generation's of the GS, 3 generation's of the ES. You get to learn the quirks and getting the most out of the model which is fun.
I tend to not keep cars over 60k miles, our RX has gone just past 60k miles and will be on the lookout for a newer car. Also, it's good to experience driving different cars. E.g. I've driven 2 generation's of the GS, 3 generation's of the ES. You get to learn the quirks and getting the most out of the model which is fun.
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The ES is actually pretty good value for money for the room that you get inside. But you do tend to drive it more conservatively because it feels much bigger than the GS. My wife doesn't like my ES, she complains that the doors are too large and it's too long.
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Resale value goes down quite significantly on any luxury cars when the miles rack up. People who would pay top dollars for a Lexus are after low milage. Plus the additional annoying things that goes wrong as well which I rather avoid as life is busy.
I tend to not keep cars over 60k miles, our RX has gone just past 60k miles and will be on the lookout for a newer car. Also, it's good to experience driving different cars. E.g. I've driven 2 generation's of the GS, 3 generation's of the ES. You get to learn the quirks and getting the most out of the model which is fun.
I tend to not keep cars over 60k miles, our RX has gone just past 60k miles and will be on the lookout for a newer car. Also, it's good to experience driving different cars. E.g. I've driven 2 generation's of the GS, 3 generation's of the ES. You get to learn the quirks and getting the most out of the model which is fun.
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hey they are definitely two different cars for sure… there are things I liked more about the gs and already things I like about the newer car.
if they had a new gs i probably would have gotten that but as you know that’s no longer an option. The LS isn’t in my range and the IS was s a little to small for my families needs.
I got the 2015 GS with 30 miles on it and just went over 123k. They gave me 19k and I wasn’t willing to buy an older car. So for my needs it’s just right.
I look forward to modding it, it should be a good challenge. It’s definitely not the ES’s I recall from my teen years. (I’m in my 30’s)
if they had a new gs i probably would have gotten that but as you know that’s no longer an option. The LS isn’t in my range and the IS was s a little to small for my families needs.
I got the 2015 GS with 30 miles on it and just went over 123k. They gave me 19k and I wasn’t willing to buy an older car. So for my needs it’s just right.
I look forward to modding it, it should be a good challenge. It’s definitely not the ES’s I recall from my teen years. (I’m in my 30’s)
I can list few of the things where gs is better
at least my gs is having night vision ,4 brake caliper piston brakes 18 way adjustable seats,,,, faster than any ES, 450h... 5.7 seconds 0-100 rear wheels,better suspention and many other things...
way way better than ES, not sure with what can Es car can attract most people.
mine even have LED/high and low beams.... so unless they came with LASER headlight , which audi have and bmw and some other brands it will not be good upgrade and better seats/brake/engines and better fuel economy.
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in the end how much do you pay for ES- or its in lease?
I can list few of the things where gs is better
at least my gs is having night vision ,4 brake caliper piston brakes 18 way adjustable seats,,,, faster than any ES, 450h... 5.7 seconds 0-100 rear wheels,better suspention and many other things...
way way better than ES, not sure with what can Es car can attract most people.
mine even have LED/high and low beams.... so unless they came with LASER headlight , which audi have and bmw and some other brands it will not be good upgrade and better seats/brake/engines and better fuel economy.
I can list few of the things where gs is better
at least my gs is having night vision ,4 brake caliper piston brakes 18 way adjustable seats,,,, faster than any ES, 450h... 5.7 seconds 0-100 rear wheels,better suspention and many other things...
way way better than ES, not sure with what can Es car can attract most people.
mine even have LED/high and low beams.... so unless they came with LASER headlight , which audi have and bmw and some other brands it will not be good upgrade and better seats/brake/engines and better fuel economy.
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4 of them i am just waiting for my village service repair person to be available in order to install them,
about rust
i bought a lot of chemicals to prevent and stop rust + i will galvanize the whole chasis .
My village repair man is a pro , he is the only one which can solve complex issues around example my driver seat,
which toyota was not able to repair because they are the people - (with the word which u crossed). With volume sales or non existing customer base they dont know in my country how to service and repair these cars at all ,so my village man is my best repair man,so far.
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really? See I feel like the GS was bigger 🤷🏽♂️… I don’t necessarily drive conservatively either tho lol