Notices
GS - 4th Gen (2013-2020) Discussion about the 2013 and up GS models

Pirelli P7 + Conti DWS 06 Combo

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 13, 2019 | 09:12 AM
  #16  
endeavor1's Avatar
endeavor1
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by CouveGS
Read the fine print on those warranties...if you can't rotate your tires = no mileage warranty. I sprang for the A/S 3+ and only saw 12k miles before needing to be replaced out back. I'm looking to go square just so I can rotate.
Thanks for that reminder. I admit to not having read the fine print, but the small print on these tire websites states that if you have staggered fitment, it's 50% of the mileage warranty, not necessarily entirely voided. But I could definitely be misinformed here.
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2019 | 09:35 AM
  #17  
AJLex19's Avatar
AJLex19
Lead Lap
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,830
Likes: 1,336
From: NY
Default

Originally Posted by endeavor1
Thanks for the idea. Not sure I follow, sorry for these noob question here. The thread appears to discuss getting all new wheels to achieve the square set up. I understand going square on the tires if you have identical wheels. Then you are rotating wheels/tires that are identical. But are you suggesting it's possible to keep the stock wheels on, even though they are wider in the back, and have identical tires all the way around? If so, you still couldn't rotate them, correct?
That's correct basically i'm saying that you can go square setup on staggered wheels.

The front wheels on the F Sport are 19x8, the rears are 19x9. A tire that is 235/40/19 or 245/40/19 will fit any wheel that is 19" in diameter and anywhere from 8.0 to 9.5 inches wide. The tires in the rear may be stretched just a little to accommodate the wider width, but this does not affect safety or performance of the tire as long is its within spec.

This will allow you to keep your existing OEM Lexus F Sport staggered wheels, but buy the same tire size / tire brand for all 4 and likely have a longer life expectancy. Sorry for any confusion and hope I cleared it up!
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2019 | 09:42 AM
  #18  
endeavor1's Avatar
endeavor1
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by AJLex19
That's correct basically i'm saying that you can go square setup on staggered wheels.

The front wheels on the F Sport are 19x8, the rears are 19x9. A tire that is 235/40/19 or 245/40/19 will fit any wheel that is 19" in diameter and anywhere from 8.0 to 9.5 inches wide. The tires in the rear may be stretched just a little to accommodate the wider width, but this does not affect safety or performance of the tire as long is its within spec.

This will allow you to keep your existing OEM Lexus F Sport staggered wheels, but buy the same tire size / tire brand for all 4 and likely have a longer life expectancy. Sorry for any confusion and hope I cleared it up!
That's great news, thanks! I will plan to do the Pirelli's Cinturatos all around in that case. Anyone have insight on pros/cons of going 235 vs. 245 all around? Looks, performance, gas mileage, rubbing, etc?
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2019 | 10:01 AM
  #19  
VA75067's Avatar
VA75067
Driver
 
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 82
Likes: 7
From: TX
Default

same question here. I think tire rotations will still be a challenge unless someone is willing to un-install / re-install the tires each time
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2019 | 10:59 AM
  #20  
endeavor1's Avatar
endeavor1
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default

From what I've gathered here, I "think" the answer is no tire rotations. But at least you can get the same tires on all 4 wheels, even if they wheels are staggered. That is the benefit. But someone please correct if that is not right.
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2019 | 01:01 PM
  #21  
endeavor1's Avatar
endeavor1
Thread Starter
Driver School Candidate
 
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default

Hoping this is my last question, sorry everyone. But thanks for all the advice. I am going to go with the Pirellis. The only question now is the size.

Option 1: 235/40/19 all the way around
Option 2: 245/40/19 all the way around
Option 3: 235/40/19 up front and 245/40/19 in the rear

Thoughts? Thank you!
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2019 | 03:36 PM
  #22  
AJLex19's Avatar
AJLex19
Lead Lap
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,830
Likes: 1,336
From: NY
Default

You're right: rotation will not work as the rear will be stretched a little bit to accommodate the wider rear wheels.

If it was me, i'd go with the 245/40/19 all around. The 245 width will accommodate your OEM F Sport 19x8 wheels up front perfectly, and will cover the OEM F Sport 19x9 wheels in the rear well enough that you will likely be unable to tell there is any difference.

Post pics when you get 'em set up!

Reply
Old Feb 13, 2019 | 03:44 PM
  #23  
bob256k's Avatar
bob256k
Instructor
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,059
Likes: 275
From: California
Default

Originally Posted by AJLex19
That's correct basically i'm saying that you can go square setup on staggered wheels.

The front wheels on the F Sport are 19x8, the rears are 19x9. A tire that is 235/40/19 or 245/40/19 will fit any wheel that is 19" in diameter and anywhere from 8.0 to 9.5 inches wide. The tires in the rear may be stretched just a little to accommodate the wider width, but this does not affect safety or performance of the tire as long is its within spec.

This will allow you to keep your existing OEM Lexus F Sport staggered wheels, but buy the same tire size / tire brand for all 4 and likely have a longer life expectancy. Sorry for any confusion and hope I cleared it up!

Dang, wish I knew that before buying the 275 rear. Oh well.
I still get the traction light when gassing it, even with those tires
Reply
Old Feb 14, 2019 | 12:03 PM
  #24  
chinee's Avatar
chinee
Racer
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 1,952
Likes: 972
From: FL
Default

Originally Posted by endeavor1
Hoping this is my last question, sorry everyone. But thanks for all the advice. I am going to go with the Pirellis. The only question now is the size.

Option 1: 235/40/19 all the way around
Option 2: 245/40/19 all the way around
Option 3: 235/40/19 up front and 245/40/19 in the rear

Thoughts? Thank you!
Personally I would not square the setup If my rims are still staggered. But I would want to upsize or downsize the rear to get a good performing all season tire that would match the fronts.

So 235 40 up front, and for the rear, either:
255 40 or
275 35

With that said however, when I need to replace the rear tires in the next 12-18 months, I am thinking about buying 2 front rims and squaring my setup.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rclarke94
GS - 4th Gen (2013-2020)
6
Jun 19, 2019 07:03 AM
boostinsc
GS - 4th Gen (2013-2020)
31
Feb 21, 2017 06:07 PM
boostinsc
GS - 4th Gen (2013-2020)
24
Jan 16, 2016 03:57 PM
mackel53
GS - 3rd Gen (2006-2011)
7
Sep 24, 2009 07:49 PM
caymandive
Wheels, Tires & Brakes Forum
3
Aug 18, 2009 11:39 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:39 PM.