Glaze just hides mild swirl marks and minor scratches by temporarily filling them. The swirl marks and scratches are still there...and will be seen again after a wash or two. It temporarily hides swirls - very temporarily. Did I mention that glazing is temporary?

If you wanted to fool or deceive someone to make them think that a car's paint finish did not have swirl marks or scratches (when in actuality it does) you could create an 'illusion' by temporarily hiding them with a quickly applied glaze. Did I mention the word quick? You can glaze a stretch-limousine in less time than it takes to wash and dry a load of microfiber towels. To permanently get rid of (REMOVE) swirl marks and scratches you must use a polishing abrasive.

 

I used to detail professionally and still detail on a hobby basis. Glazing WILL NOT remove swirls. Glazing by its very nature is not abrasive, a glaze is a thick oily polish...the oils fill in swirls...they do not remove them. In order to remove swirls you need heat and abrasives to count out the edges of the marring and reduce the paint level down to where you can no longer see the marring. Glazing does not remove anything.

Its possible your detailer is compounding the paint and calling it a "glaze", but he's using the incorrect terminology.

Hand waxing will not hurt your paint, provided you use a quality wax and good quality materials to apply and remove the wax.

$250 is nothing to pay for a proper detail that includes machine polishing and REMOVAL of swirls.

 

Hey thanks for that man, I will call them and check it out. I appreciate it Can you please post some close ups pictures under the sun light ? If you can please take a close up picture of the hood on an angle because ive had glaze done and after the first car wash you can see all the swirls again. Its masks it, doesn't take them out in my experience, but your guy might be good.

I agree with you, this is what my experience with glazing has proven.

They polished it the first time, and it looked good but after the first car wash it looked really bad. So I went back the next week and the service manager gave me an appointment to take the car in. They called some detail company the second time because they showed me the invoice with the company name, and again after the first wash it looked really bad. They cut me off after the 2nd wax.

 

Agree...

But, if johnphan79's detailer is charging him $250 to wash and GLAZE his car - he's getting ripped off big-time. And it sounds like that may be what's he's getting from his detail buddy in Burbank!

 

if you are buying the vehicle I can understand dishing out some serious cheddar for a car wash or a detail, however I am leasing this vehicle, and will trade it in after a year or two. If I cant find anyone to do the job for around $200 then im not going to sweat it, im just going to drive it.

I rather save my money by getting regular washes and take a trip to Europe or Hawaii. Im not that obsessed over vanity.

 

It has nothing to do with being good or not good. Theres no skill involved in applying a glaze...you can buy a bottle of glaze and do it just as good as anybody.

There are two possibilities here:

1. They're using a glaze to mask the swirls.

2. Your washing is introducing new swirls.

When you said you washed it, how did you wash it? The obsidian is very soft, and if you don't take the time to get a good starting point and have it washed or wash it properly yourself, it will look terrible in short order.

Yet you bought wheels...and tires to replace wheels and already brand new tires in exactly the same size because the design was slightly different.

Doesn't compute to me, but okay. If you can find some way to take a trip to europe or hawaii for what it would cost to have your paint polished out and buy some products to wash it properly, I'd love to know.

 

Yes I did switch the tires and wheels but I didn't spend any extra money on it. I actually made a $400 profitt by switching them. I sold the stock wheels and tires and used that money to buy these. I didn't come out of pocket one penny is my point.

Sw13gs, im not saying for one polish or wax my friend, I was referencing to johnphan79 spending a lot on his washes. If you spending $250 every other week than in a matter of 4 washes you would have money for a vacation.

 

There are a whole bunch of people that really think they know what they're doing when it comes to washing and caring for their car's finish. Truth be known - they are the very ones responsible for scratching their car's finish and needing to polish/buff the swirls and scratches out. It's funny how someone can be the ONLY person to ever touch or wash his car yet he has swirls and scratches that he is always needing to polish out or hide. That person just loves touches on his car too much and messes up the finish himself. Amazingly!!!

 

You either misunderstood him or he's getting hosed. I think he said he paid $250 for the full detail. Nobody pays $250 for a carwash, a good professional detailer might charge $40 to wash a car like the GS. Or...like I said you can buy the tools and do it yourself.

 

The last time I washed my car was in high school. I never touch the paint or wipe down anything with a rag. The dealers car wash guys scratched it not me.

 

If you want to keep it swirl free you're going to have to either find somebody competent to take care of it or do it yourself.

How are you washing it now? Tunnel wash?

 

No sir, I would never run it through a tunnel.

I take It to the car wash on Hollywood Blvd and Vermont Blvd every week and get a hand wash. They are always washing Lambos and Bentleys, its a proper car wash. Ive been going there for 10+ years. Believe me its not the car wash guys, i bought the car at nighttime and the very next day I saw the swirls everywhere in the sun. I hadn't washed it one time.

 

Then the problem is that the swirls have never been removed, they've just been glazed and when you wash it the glaze is being washed away.

You need to have it PROPERLY compounded and polished and it should be fine. Should be good people all over the place where you are who can do that for you.

 

That is exactly what is happening because after they waxed it, I couldn't really see any swirls until I washed it.

I respect your advice because it seems you know what you are talking about and you said that you are skilled in detailing / waxing so I believe you. I am trying to find someone competent. But no one is giving me a guarantee. So im still looking.