If you want a three person adult back seat...try that in the GS before you buy it. I've had three adults in the backseat of mine a couple times, and comfort was very far from their minds.

IMHO the GS is a 4 person car.

 

Can you post a link to a reputable auto mag that states this?

I cross shopped all 3 (and more), but the ES interior, at least the UL version is far superior to that of the fully loaded Avalon's. While the GS's was far superior to the ES, it just wasn't worth the $10k plus price premium. Maybe if I was single...

 

The GS is a more expensive car, and the interior has much higher quality materials and design. Nicer plastics, nicer leathers, more padded surfaces vs hard plastic, nicer woods, more wood trim, nicer carpeting, nicer headliner...as you would expect from a car that costs $10-15k more.

 

Sorry that I can't go back 16 months of auto mag articles to substantiate this, but I definitely remember reading it. And yes, the GS is worth $10k more but it is not just the interior. I felt my $10k was very well spent after I turned in my ES loaner car and got back in my GS after service.

 

I think one thing the Avalon has but the ES doesn't is the back up camera curve with the steering wheel. I too question about the interiors. IMO Avalon's actually looks pretty good.
I too think 10K is well worth it if one can afford it. If we really think about it, it's not really a 10K difference. Most of us lease the car. It comes down to how much more we pay per month. And if negotiated right, the monthly payment may not be that far from an ES. Definitely well worth it.

 

I'll take the glass top in my ES over rear seat heaters any day. (I think that's all they have that the ES doesn't) The backup display did not curve on the fully loaded model I test drove. And, if you actually sit in the Avalon, you'll see how cheesy the interior is. Especially, if you're coming from a GS! The cap touch controls are horrible. You get glare on the screen in daylight, due to its placement. Not to mention the hideous cup holder layout. You also can't get it with the power cushion extended seats.

Oh, and you may be right about leasing. I never lease, so I would have no idea about that aspect. I don't own a business, so no tax write-offs for leasing for me. I prefer to have pride in ownership and not be restricted to how many miles I drive, etc...

 

ES or GS, buy what makes you happy. If you can afford it and In the grand scheme of things $10K isn't that much whether you buy or lease. It's a few bucks more a month. Vested over 10 years, it's $1K a year. I spend more than $1K a year on stupid stuff (plus interest if you finance). The question is will you enjoy that what that extra $10K buys you? That's how I justify spending more money on something I want. LOL

 

You need to pump up a little more on stupid stuff. It's what makes life worth living.

 

Oh trust me I do. But I filed them under Misc Expenses. LOL

 

agreed. the middle bump is huge! Takes up so much space and its really uncomfortable for rear passengers and the middle space is a lot higher then the other two. Really let down, but i've had some passengers that sat in the back compliment it and say theres a lot of leg space. sucks too because i sat in the backseat of the new mercedes benz 350 and it was so much more comfortable. I sat in the middle too and i felt no discomfort at all and it was felt a lot roomier then my backseat

 

For me the GS was $50 a month more. Absolutely a no brainer for that money.

But the GS is so far superior to a Benz E350 in every other way it more than makes up for it.

I never ride in the back LOL

 

yeah but i care about the comfort of my passengers. And yeah obviously, no questions asked lol. lexus should've just made a nice center console in the middle of the backseat

 

Tom that is going to be a "tough" fight if she remotely likes the GS. Honest I was so embarrassed to call my sales person but I held my shoulders high and said to myself "its my money and I want that GS". So when I told him the ES wasn't for me he took it well and said you'll have your GS first thing tomorrow. So by 2pm, I had my GS and not at all regretting it. LOL

 

Its not that its uncomfortable, its just comfortable for 4.

Complaining about the backseat and the key...I think you bought the wrong car.

 

Old thread but a question. On a '15 GS vs. ES, how would you equate road noise, wind noise? I know the GS will be throatier, to be expected. Thanks